Please post your comments, thoughts and observations.......
Oh dear. Utterly, utterly dreadful.
After just one listen, skipping through only, I couldn't bear to sit through a whole song of this! I seriously doubt I'll be giving this a second chance but I'll have to, if I'm to rate it. I'll make sure I've had a stiff drink beforehand.
Cannot overstate, i don't like the music here.. but the mix is... diabolical..!!
What on earth is everyone here on about!?
This is woeful double stereo at best! Nothing discrete or unique is happening at all round the back!! The same lead vocal, the same instrumentation, even the self-same drumming is in the rears as in the fronts! (Before you ask, yes I was playing back the 5.1 adv.res. and my system is properly setup.).
Right now, I want to vote it a 2, at best.. but I will re-appraise it later, to give it a fair crack - especially as its not been torn apart here at all, as I imagined it would but is seemingly rather liked (!).
As it is now, this is the biggest pile of garbage in high-res surround I've ever laid ears on (and I've heard some rubbish over the years, so you can only imagine..) but I'm willing to give it another try and be proven wrong. We shall see..
With the upcoming Ultra-mega-super-pooper-fucken-deluxe version coming out with this mix, I guess it would be helpful to vote:
Ok, so many QQers are not going to like this, based on content. It wasn't recorded in the 50's, 60's, 70's or 80's. Had it been, many voters would have given it a "10," even with a **** mix. I wish I had a dollar for every poll like that.
This is a HARD ROCK album. Probably recorded on a shoe-string budget. In the 90's.
So here's what you get:
Drums, bass and main guitars up front. Main vocals in all channels, favoring the rears somewhat. Guitar overdubs and extra vocals heavily favoring the rears.
IMO, that's about all you could do with this release. The more adventurous tracks have more adventurous mixes. It's not rocket science, people.
It is GREAT for what it is. It's currently $30 or so on Amazon. Snatch it up or just pay for the box set. Help fund Rhino's mission and maybe they'll give us a Doobie box...
great album. Takes me back to 1993 as soon as the vocal starts on the first track. Like others said, not the most adventurous mix, but probably not a lot they could have done with it. But this is the best this album has sounded. And the more you crank it the better it sounds. Dean DeLeo is an amazing, underrated guitarist. And Scott Weiland was a genius.
I only wish the next two albums had been mixed to 5.1 as well. Maybe we’ll get one for a big anniversary edition of “Purple”?
And if you gave this album a low rating because you don’t like the music? Yeah. You’re too old. Lol
I cannot fathom not liking this music....and I'm...well.....much over 50 let's say.
Great post. I have the old DVD-A in the normal jewel case and was never particularly thrilled with it. I'm of the opinion that a lot of these early 2000s Warner/Rhino DVD-As could've been done a lot better, but I agree that they probably couldn't have improved this any more without it sounding radically different. Decided to give it a spin today and it's really not that bad- I've heard plenty of fake quad/double stereo mixes and this isn't one of them.
The other few 90s hard rock/grunge albums that have made it to 5.1 (the 2 SoundGardens, Temple Of The Dog, Alice In Chains) are not exactly surround spectaculars from what I've read here- perhaps that has to do with the way they were recorded, budget reasons, etc as you note above.
I hope the powers-that-be keep going with the 90s stuff though- Pearl Jam Ten in 5.1 would be epic.
Not a demo disc- but a fun listen every once in a while.
For the people who like waveforms- the mastering is a lot better than many old Rhino DVD-As