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HiRez Poll Deep Purple - CONCERTO FOR GROUP AND ORCHESTA [DVD-A/SACD]
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The band do sound Raw, This also Contains the only classical music I have on DVD-A On the whole I like the atmosphere created by the surround mix but an agressive mix it aint.
Just noticed that this is also available on SACD. $50 from Amazon!!!
I originally picked this up on LP back in the day, and I must say that it never did much for me. The surround release definitely kicks it up a notch or three and allows me to appreciate it so much more. I must say that it is one of the better full-bore rock group and orchestra collaborations to come out of the sixties... but what does that really say? Not a whole lot, I'm afraid. Be that as it may, this one gets 7 heartfelt points (the original stereo release would get 4, so that's a pretty big leap forward, I'd say).
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I thought the SACD went OOP.
eelkiller said:
That doesn't mean you can't vote for it, right?
Well done DVD-A by a well meaning group; however you won't likely listen to more than 1/4 of it I believe. It's dynamic to be sure but ponderous as well.
underwhelming in every respect.
this discs' cause isn't helped much by the fact this just isn't my cup of Deep Purple tea, I guess.. I'm more a Machine Head/Burn/Stormbringer man.
this just doesn't do much for me on any level, i'm afraid, stylistically, or content-wise.
in terms of sound quality and surround mix its just ok but not my kind of sound.
so its a "6" to be fair and reasonable as its not terrible, though I'm really not keen on it at all, I gotta say (just in case you hadn't already gathered..!)
this discs' cause isn't helped much by the fact this just isn't my cup of Deep Purple tea, I guess.. I'm more a Machine Head/Burn/Stormbringer man.
this just doesn't do much for me on any level, i'm afraid, stylistically, or content-wise.
in terms of sound quality and surround mix its just ok but not my kind of sound.
so its a "6" to be fair and reasonable as its not terrible, though I'm really not keen on it at all, I gotta say (just in case you hadn't already gathered..!)
Short take: Buy it for the music if you like it, but NOT for the surround.
I think I can shed a little more light on this title than has appeared here previously.
This recording documents a concert from the Royal Albert Hall from 9/24/69 featuring the classic "Mark II" lineup of Deep Purple. More can be found on the various line-ups here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deep_Purple_band_members
The Music:
For rock fans, there are three "band only" songs on this disc: Hush, Wring That Neck, & Child In Time. This is the classic Deep Purple playing at or near the height of their career, so this document of the concert is worthy for any Purple fan. If you don't like classical, you can just play these three tracks, presented here (on the DVD-A & SACD) in high resolution.
For classical fans the disc begins with three movements of a symphony by the orchestra alone, with no Deep Purple. I am not a classical fan, so there is no point in me commenting on this performance. Others may wish to chime in.
The final section of the disc is the performance which includes both orchestra and Purple. This was written by Jon Lord and to my knowledge not performed by Purple in any other context than with an orchestra. I mention this because around this time Pink Floyd was also preparing Atom Heart Mother, which they often performed without the orchestra, and I think this speaks to the nature of the music. I am not sure the Deep Purple orchestral piece would have stood up to a band-only performance, although I am no Deep Purple expert, so forgive me if they tried it and I am unaware of it.
Do I like the combined piece? I find it to be a curiosity, and not unpleasant to listen to. But I doubt I would give it many repeated listenings, because as I noted earlier I am not a classical fan. Those who love this band AND classical might find much to like here.
As previously mentioned earlier in the thread, the rears are hall ambience ONLY. There is no discrete content whatsoever in the rears. I have never understood the appeal of this sort of mix, but others around here obviously enjoy it, especially if in a classical context. Deep Purple obviously have mixed other things in surround, so the concept is not entirely foreign to them, although as of the fall of 1969 very few bands or engineers were thinking in those terms.
I am really not knocking the music here, but with surround in mind I cannot go more than a 5. In fact, if surround were the only criteria I call this a solid 1, but with the high resolution music in mind I cannot call this a waste of plastic, as would be suggested by a 1.
With the high prices this seems to fetch these days I would say this is for the hardcore Purple fan only.
I think I can shed a little more light on this title than has appeared here previously.
This recording documents a concert from the Royal Albert Hall from 9/24/69 featuring the classic "Mark II" lineup of Deep Purple. More can be found on the various line-ups here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deep_Purple_band_members
The Music:
For rock fans, there are three "band only" songs on this disc: Hush, Wring That Neck, & Child In Time. This is the classic Deep Purple playing at or near the height of their career, so this document of the concert is worthy for any Purple fan. If you don't like classical, you can just play these three tracks, presented here (on the DVD-A & SACD) in high resolution.
For classical fans the disc begins with three movements of a symphony by the orchestra alone, with no Deep Purple. I am not a classical fan, so there is no point in me commenting on this performance. Others may wish to chime in.
The final section of the disc is the performance which includes both orchestra and Purple. This was written by Jon Lord and to my knowledge not performed by Purple in any other context than with an orchestra. I mention this because around this time Pink Floyd was also preparing Atom Heart Mother, which they often performed without the orchestra, and I think this speaks to the nature of the music. I am not sure the Deep Purple orchestral piece would have stood up to a band-only performance, although I am no Deep Purple expert, so forgive me if they tried it and I am unaware of it.
Do I like the combined piece? I find it to be a curiosity, and not unpleasant to listen to. But I doubt I would give it many repeated listenings, because as I noted earlier I am not a classical fan. Those who love this band AND classical might find much to like here.
As previously mentioned earlier in the thread, the rears are hall ambience ONLY. There is no discrete content whatsoever in the rears. I have never understood the appeal of this sort of mix, but others around here obviously enjoy it, especially if in a classical context. Deep Purple obviously have mixed other things in surround, so the concept is not entirely foreign to them, although as of the fall of 1969 very few bands or engineers were thinking in those terms.
I am really not knocking the music here, but with surround in mind I cannot go more than a 5. In fact, if surround were the only criteria I call this a solid 1, but with the high resolution music in mind I cannot call this a waste of plastic, as would be suggested by a 1.
With the high prices this seems to fetch these days I would say this is for the hardcore Purple fan only.
Couldn't agree more with your evaluation Fourplay, ambience surround , hall ambient .
It is a fan delight with that lineup, though agreed.
I suppose a 5 is in order for me too.
FWIW
(Also made available on DVD)
It is a fan delight with that lineup, though agreed.
I suppose a 5 is in order for me too.
FWIW
(Also made available on DVD)
I keep meaning to do a proper comparison of the two high-res surround issues of this piece - the original (on SACD/DVD-Audio) and the blu-ray from 2012 (not technically a blu-ray audio since it has video content in the form of a documentary, but the recording is included in 24/96 5.1 audio (no video).
I believe this is also the only multichannel release thus far of one of Malcolm Arnold's symphonies - I've been starting to dip into the Sony Vernon Handley cycle that's now selling for about $2 a CD, but the only high-res release I'm aware of is a (bafflingly stereo-only) Dutton SACD of his seventh symphony.
I believe this is also the only multichannel release thus far of one of Malcolm Arnold's symphonies - I've been starting to dip into the Sony Vernon Handley cycle that's now selling for about $2 a CD, but the only high-res release I'm aware of is a (bafflingly stereo-only) Dutton SACD of his seventh symphony.
I've always liked the original album "Concerto for Group and Orchestra", the first album by Mark 2, and it still sounds much like Mark 1. I do find that the SACD is a bit drawn out, not something you would listen to repeatedly. The surround is almost non existent, but I find that often to be the case with 2000's 5.1 releases. I'll give it a 5 due to the lackluster surround effect.
