Friedrich Gulda / Claudio Abbado: Mozart Concertos - in Atmos and More on Blu-ray Audio

[McCrutchy]

Deutsche Grammophon have released a Blu-ray Audio (with 2x Remastered CD) of the four Friedrich Gulda / Claudio Abbado Mozart Piano Concertos (1974-1975) internationally. Presto Classical says it includes 2.0 and 5.1, but I've just seen a picture of the actual product, and it claims to have 2.0, 4.0 and Dolby Atmos.

Now, these Pure Audio Blu-rays from Universal Music have had incorrect audio formats printed on the packaging before, so one needs to measure expectations, but still, there should be either 4.0 or 5.1 on there, and Atmos, too.

It's not out in the US until late June, but it's also under $20 on Amazon right now.

 

[humprof]

Deutsche Grammophon have released a Blu-ray Audio (with 2x Remastered CD) of the four Friedrich Gulda / Claudio Abbado Mozart Piano Concertos (1974-1975) internationally. Presto Classical says it includes 2.0 and 5.1, but I've just seen a picture of the actual product, and it claims to have 2.0, 4.0 and Dolby Atmos.

Now, these Pure Audio Blu-rays from Universal Music have had incorrect audio formats printed on the packaging before, so one needs to measure expectations, but still, there should be either 4.0 or 5.1 on there, and Atmos, too.

It's not out in the US until late June, but it's also under $20 on Amazon right now.

Thanks for hepping us to these new releases, @McCrutchy.

Have you heard the new Carmen yet? Wondering if there's any reason to supplement my perfectly good--well, excellent, actually--Bernstein version.

 

[McCrutchy]

Thanks for hepping us to these new releases, @McCrutchy.

Have you heard the new Carmen yet? Wondering if there's any reason to supplement my perfectly good--well, excellent, actually--Bernstein version.

No, the Abbado Carmen is not out yet, but I do have another stereo-only DG Blu-ray Audio release coming to me right now, along with a Blu-ray concert from DG that should have Atmos.

I should also re-state for the record, since I've said it elsewhere but possibly not on this forum, that I do not have Atmos capability, although I can and do listen to the Dolby TrueHD core on my 7.1 system.

 

[Simon A]

importcds has it for $16.44 on pre-order

 

[ubertrout]

Really interesting, thanks for the heads up! Gulda was a nut, but usually in the best ways.

Edit to add: Just looked at the photo - 2.0, 4.0, and ATMOS. THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT. Give us a choice of a vintage quad mix or the modern surround mix. AVRs not set up for Atmos will just see it as TrueHD 7.1.

 

[beerking]

I've just sent an e-mail to Presto asking for clarification.
https://www.prestomusic.com/classic...ozart-piano-concertos-nos-20-21-25-27#related
Looked on Pure Audio's site, couldn't find any reference to this release.
https://pureaudiorecordings.com/

 

[ubertrout]

Pure Audio is for the independent releases, I don't think they have any of the DG releases? And regardless, this is an archival release, not a new recording. I don't think emailing Presto will be helpful, and frankly I'm worried that these sort of inquiries will sour people on these releases. We have a photo of the back of the product, and frankly the folks at Presto likely will barely know what to make of the question.

Edit: I misspoke, I see they have the Fournier Bach Cello Suites. But still wouldn't think of them not having this (yet).

 

[beerking]

Pure Audio is for the independent releases, I don't think they have any of the DG releases? And regardless, this is an archival release, not a new recording. I don't think emailing Presto will be helpful, and frankly I'm worried that these sort of inquiries will sour people on these releases. We have a photo of the back of the product, and frankly the folks at Presto likely will barely know what to make of the question.

I disagree, they do list DG releases and I have a good relationship with Presto .
Do not worry, it's all meant to help our fellow quaddies.
But there we are, each to their own views.
More important events going on at the moment.

Thanks Uber for your update...,,we are all well meaning in our pursuit of the holy grail!!

 

[ubertrout]

If you're good with them, then go for it. The process of getting these unreleased quads is like pulling teeth, and I'm just glad when one shows up, and I want to keep from stopping the stream.

 

[4-earredwonder]

Although NOT in QUAD, I just added this delightful BD~A/2RBCD DGG release to my ImportCD basket [24/192]:

https://www.importcds.com/debussy-preludes-i-and-ii-images-i-and-ii/028948382255
One can only wonder if Universal/DGG will eventually record and release Classical Releases specifically engineered for Dolby Atmos????????

 

[ubertrout]

Although NOT in QUAD, I just added this delightful BD~A/2RBCD DGG release to my ImportCD basket [24/192]:

https://www.importcds.com/debussy-preludes-i-and-ii-images-i-and-ii/028948382255
One can only wonder if Universal/DGG will eventually record and release Classical Releases specifically engineered for Dolby Atmos????????

That's a legendary recording, enjoy it! I don't know if solo instruments gain as much from surround treatment anyway.

 

[4-earredwonder]

That's a legendary recording, enjoy it! I don't know if solo instruments gain as much from surround treatment anyway.

For a little more than the price of a RBCD, I love these DGG BD~A/RBCD combos [even though I could live without the CDs]. I'm been buying up all those box sets for hours upon hours of listening pleasure ... albeit in Stereo.

I did buy the Preludes I and II a few years ago on stunning Sono Luminus BD~As in surround ..... and yes, the DDD recordings do benefit somewhat from the added rears, but, heck, for $16.44 to have Benedetti's classic interpretations in 24/192 sonics is an ultimate bargain.

https://www.sonoluminus.com/store/starry-night-preludes-book-i-and-other-works


https://www.sonoluminus.com/store/beau-soir-preludes-book-ii-and-other-works?rq=debussy

 

[ubertrout]

For a little more than the price of a RBCD, I love these DGG BD~A/RBCD combos [even though I could live without the CDs]. I'm been buying up all those box sets for hours upon hours of listening pleasure ... albeit in Stereo.

I did buy the Preludes I and II a few years ago on stunning Sono Luminus BD~As in surround ..... and yes, the DDD recordings do benefit somewhat from the added rears, but, heck, for $16.44 to have Benedetti's classic interpretations in 24/192 sonics is an ultimate bargain.

https://www.sonoluminus.com/store/starry-night-preludes-book-i-and-other-works


https://www.sonoluminus.com/store/beau-soir-preludes-book-ii-and-other-works?rq=debussy

Speaking of, I've always loved the Stokowski orchestrastion of The Drowned Cathedral from the Preludes - shame there's no high-res version.

 

[stevedemena]

Deutsche Grammophon have released a Blu-ray Audio (with 2x Remastered CD) of the four Friedrich Gulda / Claudio Abbado Mozart Piano Concertos (1974-1975) internationally. Presto Classical says it includes 2.0 and 5.1, but I've just seen a picture of the actual product, and it claims to have 2.0, 4.0 and Dolby Atmos.

Now, these Pure Audio Blu-rays from Universal Music have had incorrect audio formats printed on the packaging before, so one needs to measure expectations, but still, there should be either 4.0 or 5.1 on there, and Atmos, too.

It's not out in the US until late June, but it's also under $20 on Amazon right now.

It probably is just a reissue of the DG “Originals” masters with no new remaster or surround sound.

 

[ubertrout]

It probably is just a reissue of the DG “Originals” masters with no new remaster or surround sound.

I suspect it will be a new one, and all the listings say surround...but I suppose we'll all find out soon enough.

 

[mrcond]

Deutsche Grammophon have released a Blu-ray Audio (with 2x Remastered CD) of the four Friedrich Gulda / Claudio Abbado Mozart Piano Concertos (1974-1975) internationally. Presto Classical says it includes 2.0 and 5.1, but I've just seen a picture of the actual product, and it claims to have 2.0, 4.0 and Dolby Atmos.

Now, these Pure Audio Blu-rays from Universal Music have had incorrect audio formats printed on the packaging before, so one needs to measure expectations, but still, there should be either 4.0 or 5.1 on there, and Atmos, too.

It's not out in the US until late June, but it's also under $20 on Amazon right now.

Any confirmation on the surround formats on this one? The Amazon listing seems to make no mention of surround at all. I apparently pre-ordered this a while back but will camel if no surround.

 

[humprof]

Any confirmation on the surround formats on this one? The Amazon listing seems to make no mention of surround at all. I apparently pre-ordered this a while back but will camel if no surround.

Didn't @ubertrout say upthread that he'd seen a photo of the back of the box that showed 2.0, 4.0, and Atmos? (I haven't been able to find that photo independently.)

 

[ubertrout]

There was a photo linked to in the original post, but I don't see it now. It looks like this is out in Europe and out soon in the USA, so we'll find out soon enough.

 

[ubertrout]

This is a tangent, but researching this led me to discover that DG has reissued William Steinberg's Beethoven cycle with the Pittsburgh Symphony, recorded by the Mercury Living Presence team for Command in the early 1960s. Sadly it seems the 3-channel film masters aren't in great shape and they had to use the 2-channel cutting masters, but that's still a huge improvement (for all but 3 of these they've never had an authorized digital release before).

Edit to add - a link of people are interested: BEETHOVEN The Symphonies / Steinberg

 

[mrcond]

Didn't @ubertrout say upthread that he'd seen a photo of the back of the box that showed 2.0, 4.0, and Atmos? (I haven't been able to find that photo independently.)

Received mine today. Haven’t listened yet but the packaging clearly indicates 2.0, 4.0 and Atmos mixes are included on the blu-ray.