HiRez Poll Nash, Graham - SONGS FOR SURVIVORS [DVD-A]

[JonUrban]

Please post your comments, thoughts and observations.......

 

[tcdriver]

This is an enjoyable album although it is not one of my favorites. The photo gallery is a nice bonus feature. I gave it a score of 7.

 

[MIDIQ]

I hadn't listened to this one but a couple of times since i bought it quite a while ago, and didn't remember it being all that great. But about a month ago i pulled it out of the collection and was greatly surprised by great songs and a great surround mix. I listened to it 3 times in 3 days. I gave it a 9. Quite nice.

 

[daved64]

Great disc. The care that went into it is pretty obvious. Nash is a class act. An 8!

 

[John Kotches]

Even though this disc is only 24bit/48K it's still an outstanding recording.

I'm particularly fond of the natural timbre of GNs voice.

Cheers,

 

[daved64]

Even though this disc is only 24bit/48K it's still an outstanding recording.

I'm particularly fond of the natural timbre of GNs voice.

Cheers,

He made an argument on his website sayin that he didn't want to go higher just for the sake of it. He said if anything it would have sounded worse....more digital.

 

[Cai Campbell]

What floored me most was the awesome sound of this recording. Absolutely incredible. The songs start off great but by the middle I start getting antsy... still, a solid songwriting effort. The surround mix just makes me smile. What the heck, I gave it a 10. I can't imagine not having this title in my library.

 

[John Kotches]

dave:

I used the word only in italics for a reason, in other words to point out how good 24/48K sounds when done right

I don't necessarily agree that 24/96K sounds "more digital" but that's ok

Cheers,

 

[daved64]

dave:

I used the word only in italics for a reason, in other words to point out how good 24/48K sounds when done right

I don't necessarily agree that 24/96K sounds "more digital" but that's ok

Cheers,

Gotcha

 

[daved64]

Here's Graham....

The reason we did that is that the album was originally recorded at 48k/24bit. The album was also mixed and mastered in the digital domain. Since such care was taken during the recording process we felt that the sample rate conversion process that would take it to 96k was more damaging to the product than leaving it alone. Since the original medium was 48k the only reason to upsample it would have been a marketing one. To be honest the reason THAT record sounds so good is that it WASN'T released at 96k. Had the original recording been recorded at 96k then the DVD-A release would certainly have followed suit. Hope that's clear.

 

[John Kotches]

Dave:

It's good to get the quote in context. I've used similar terms with respect to upsampling previously low-sampling rate material.

Cheers,

 

[mrtanner]

24/48 sounds as good as any 96/192 recordings I have. This is a great demo disk for people who are into softer acoustic stuff.

However, I rarely listen to this disk all the way through. The left-wing political victim lyrics get tiresome for me.

 

[JonUrban]

You have to like "Lost Another One", however, a very "Should have been a hit"-type song.

 

[Eggplant]

Recording: 10
Surround Mix: 10
Vocals: 10
Performance: 10
Songwriting: 10

This is my first and only Nash disc.

Shame on me for keeping this disc wrapped in plastic for FIVE YEARS. I just now opened it and listened. And then played it again. And again.

SSphiles have a problem. We need to spread the word to others about great NEW MC releases. Trouble is, there aren't many. (Not surprising -- most albums released are mediocre. Why should we expect discs by middle-aged rockers past their expiration date, like Elvis Costello, to be any better?)
There are only so many new ears we can bend with Machine Head.

To have someone like Graham Nash "in our corner", still putting out prime MC product, is really more than we could have hoped for.

Like Cai, I can't imagine a MC collection without it.

 

[radiodaddy]

I also don't agree with Nash's politics, but I do agree that the album is beautifully recorded and mixed - it's a reference disc. Like Flaming Lips, it shows what can be done when the artist goes into the studio with the idea of hi-rez MC sound from the start. Nash's sense of melody is just as good as it has ever been - it's definitely a case of the material living up to the technical specs. I give it a nine.

BTW, allow me to also quote Matt Taibbi, from a recent NY Press column, reason # 17 why the impending death of Pope John Paul II is funny: "In his last days, the Pope was in tremendous pain."

Loathsome. But politics is not what this forum is about, and shame on you for bringing it up. Trust the art, not the artist.

 

[bugdaddy]

Like Cai, I can't imagine a MC collection without it.

that's good enough for me. this board rarely steers me wrong. i'll put this one on the "get list".

 

[neil wilkes]

I only got this last week, and shame on me for not doing so a LOT sooner.
It's definitely a "must-buy" disc, and the 48KHz issue is a non issue, it really is.
Beautifully authored - and I like the almost "hidden" random slideshow that an be accessed instead of the lyric slideshow.
The music is exactly what I would expect (what DID happen to the long-awaited 5.1 of "Deja Vu", btw?) and stunningly executed.

Highly recommended.

 

[Eggplant]

Beautifully authored

I think it's safe to say this is one release NOT subject to your oft-quoted "brickwall limiting".

Set the volume too high and you'll blow some drivers.

 

[Felix E. Martinez]

It has been brickwall limited, but not excessively so. Great disc, great mix. Been enjoying it for years!

 

[aquadad]

Hello,

Nice album, gave it a ten. This leaves Stephen Stills w/o a surround contribution...

Couldn't help but notice how much "Nothing In The World" sounds like Lennon/McCartney's "Don't Let Me Down", check it out.