The Who "Quadrophenia" HFPA Blu-Ray - Playback Issues?

[jefe1]

I would like to know too what the rationale is.
I have yet to play test my disc I got it long ago.
This is another reason to rip and store all of your hard to replace discs something I need to get up to speed on.

 

[Jim.olga]

I would like to know too what the rationale is.
I have yet to play test my disc I got it long ago.
This is another reason to rip and store all of your hard to replace discs something I need to get up to speed on.

If I only had the ways and means to rip the multichannel formats!

 

[gene]

Fine 600 or higher. You want to see a bit of plastic dust. I don't think you can do too much, within reason. Just tear off a piece and wrap around tip of your finger. Try it first in the player, sometimes it takes a little extra.

HOLY SHIT IT WORKED!!!!!

Thank you so much for helping out!

 

[marpow]

HOLY SHIT IT WORKED!!!!!

Thank you so much for helping out!

That makes me happy.

 

[marpow]

Did he give any explanation why that would work?

Do you know why this works?

My understanding is, and of course this rarely if at all happens, because if it did it would just be chaos between consumers.
The hole sits on a spindle in the player and the disc pressing plant can sometimes stamp that hole just a hair to tight.
Outside of my explanation maybe a Google or Wikipedia search would help you?

 

[Jim.olga]

My understanding is, and of course this rarely if at all happens, because if it did it would just be chaos between consumers.
The hole sits on a spindle in the player and the disc pressing plant can sometimes stamp that hole just a hair to tight.
Outside of my explanation maybe a Google or Wikipedia search would help you?

That sounds logical. Thanks! I will do as you suggest and Google it!

 

[zdjh22]

My understanding is, and of course this rarely if at all happens, because if it did it would just be chaos between consumers.
The hole sits on a spindle in the player and the disc pressing plant can sometimes stamp that hole just a hair to tight.
Outside of my explanation maybe a Google or Wikipedia search would help you?

Such a handy trick for all of us to stick in our back pockets!

I used to do design, testing, and failure analysis of AlGaAs diode lasers - infrared, so the type in a CD player as opposed to the red lasers used in a DVD player or the blue in a BluRay. Here’s my speculation: a slightly tight hole will result in the disc sitting a bit high, which causes the focus servo to have to aim on average higher. An aging laser or servo could have a narrower range - for sure beam characteristics of diode lasers can change a bit over time, plus their output drops (so the S/N required for a good focus or read could stop being achievable). Therefore perhaps not an aging disc, but an aging player. I know from experience that the red laser in PS3’s fail first, and have had to replace mine (for ripping SACDs).

 

[ProgRules]

Now I do recall, it was the ones with the rough edges that were sometimes failing, I'm sorry to report. It was early on when it started to happen. The smooth-sided (normal) BR discs were not effected.

I just check mine and it has clean smooth edges.

Thanks for the info. Still wondering why it plays ok in the Sonys though...

Have to check out my external BD drive to see if it will still rip...

 

[ProgRules]

I have re-read the pages of this thread, brings back memories, Quadrophenia might be the first Blu Ray MCH I purchased?
I have since purchased the big round can version in the plastic box.

I have noticed some discs not playing conversation.

Out of thousands of discs I have only two that would not play this being one of them. It would not play on day one, in fact I returned and replaced from Amazon, 4 I think and I gave up.
I went to a McIntosh gathering at a local audio shop and Charlie from McIntosh said, take some fine sandpaper and give the inside center hole a little light sanding. I immediately went home, sanded the 1/16th" thick center hole, and after all that stress it worked.
It has since happened to at least one other disc, but I know what to do now.

Great info! Thanks. Will try.

 

[ProgRules]

Such a handy trick for all of us to stick in our back pockets!

I used to do design, testing, and failure analysis of AlGaAs diode lasers - infrared, so the type in a CD player as opposed to the red lasers used in a DVD player or the blue in a BluRay. Here’s my speculation: a slightly tight hole will result in the disc sitting a bit high, which causes the focus servo to have to aim on average higher. An aging laser or servo could have a narrower range - for sure beam characteristics of diode lasers can change a bit over time, plus their output drops (so the S/N required for a good focus or read could stop being achievable). Therefore perhaps not an aging disc, but an aging player. I know from experience that the red laser in PS3’s fail first, and have had to replace mine (for ripping SACDs).

That would explain why the disc fails in my old Oppos but not the newer Sonys!

 

[zdjh22]

That would explain why the disc fails in my old Oppos but not the newer Sonys!

I can hand wave with the best of them!

Let us know if your external BD can still read the disc.

I have a replacement laser for my Oppo in case that inevitable day comes. But I mostly just use it to play my rips over the network, so the drive doesn’t get a lot of use.

 

[quicksrt]

Thanks for the info. Still wondering why it plays ok in the Sonys though...

Have to check out my external BD drive to see if it will still rip...

I took my copy out and dropped it into my Oppo 105D. It did not load but sat there at 0000.00 on counter. Then I ejected it and started it again and not seeing much action. I left it alone and went into the kitchen for an iced coffee. I returned to the played and it was all loaded up on the screen and I switched to DTS, hit play, skipped to my fave tracks and it played correctly to the end. But very odd it was taking so long to load. I would not be surprised if it died a slower death but dead none the less. I thought it was a goner there for a few minutes.

 

[ProgRules]

I took my copy out and dropped it into my Oppo 105D. It did not load but sat there at 0000.00 on counter. Then I ejected it and started it again and not seeing much action. I left it alone and went into the kitchen for an iced coffee. I returned to the played and it was all loaded up on the screen and I switched to DTS, hit play, skipped to my gave tracks and it played correctly to the end. But very odd it was taking so long to load. I would not be surprised if it died a slower death but dead none the less. I thought it was a goner there for a few minutes.

On both my Oppos it says unknown disc. It sounds like yours loaded, just not fully, until after some time passed.

 

[inspclouseau]

HOLY SHIT IT WORKED!!!!!

Thank you so much for helping out!

The oppo 103 we have is the only source hooked up to a stereo vacuum tube amplifier. Our Oppo 203 is used for surround and is the primary source. The Oppo 93 is almost never used and is a spare in the bedroom. Strange to me that the Oppo 103 is an issue with this one. I almost sanded the center hole, but since the 203 is in the front room too.. ..
Still might so I can listen to the 2 channel portion through our tube amplifier too. Sure love the tube amp for 2 channel!

 

[SomethingAnything]

I got 'No Disc' three times, but then it worked. Phew. I have a Cambridge Audio (my understanding is they are Oppo inside?). I can hear a quiet buzz whenever I hit pause, suggesting it's not spinning smoothly in there!

This is the first time I've listened to it since I upgraded to Atmos. It sure sounds wonderful listening to the 5.1 DTS-HD with Auro3D also engaged to make use of my ceiling speakers. I was planning to just quickly confirm that it played, but honestly, I can't turn this off... Guess I'm listening to all of it.

Addl: BTW, my disc is smooth around the edges.

 

[JediJoker]

My disc played flawlessly in my Oppo BDP-103D.

This discussion needs to be migrated out of the poll thread.

 

[jefe1]

My disc loaded is playing on my Oppo thank God

What great great music......

 

[mandrix]

Don't know about the disc but my .iso rip plays fine. I did some scans and from what I can see from the disc scan the edges of the disc look smooth...not sure if rough edge would be an indicator of a bad disc or not?
But yet another reason the first place my new discs go is in the pc optical drive and get ripped. I've had discs crap out over the years. With an .iso rip I can burn a new disc if needed.