HiRez Poll Jethro Tull - AQUALUNG [Blu-Ray Audio]

DennisMabry · Nov 11, 2011

wavelength said:
I'm hearing a buzzing out of the rears on the last verse of Locomotive Breath that seems out of place. Anyone else notice this?

That buzzing sound is just part of the song. You can hear it in the original stereo mix if you listen for it. It is just more prominent on this mix. My wife and I had this conversation, as to; What instrument was used to make that sound? Whether it is a didgeridoo, zither, Guiro or just some homemade thing remains a mystery to me.

Edit; I read on another site that someone thought it was just a bass guitar. Another added that it was "Static humming panel beaters". :>)

wavelength · Nov 11, 2011

DennisMabry said:
That buzzing sound is just part of the song. )

Good! That is a relief although I prefer the sound of the preceding verses where it's not present. Probably over time I'll learn to like it.

cupboy · Nov 11, 2011

DaneelOlivaw said:
I don't understand why there's two sets of tracks provided (DTS-MA and LPCM) that offer the same resolution........

Not that I know much about this, but I'd guess the LPCM is for people like me who have a machine with multi-channel analog outputs and no dts HD MA capability, and the dts HD MA is for those people who decode the sound in a "receiver" or similar device. I could be wrong though.

Anyway I returned my sealed one to Best Buy today. Just couldn't see spending $150 for it.

I may go with a Barnes & Noble on-line deal. $143, but I have a 25% off coupon that expires on Sunday which drops it down to around $107 + tax. Of course if someone knows of a better deal I'd be interested.

Not importcds.com though. Not attempting that one.

wavelength · Nov 11, 2011

wavelength said:
the mix on Hymn 43 doesn't work for me - not as clear as the others

Had a few more listens and the thing that makes this tune different is that the mix is concentrated in the center space. Kind of makes it a more mono-ish, less discrete mix. We'll see. Maybe I just need to get used to it. Overall impression of the album now: to use some 70's vernacular - it is a mind-blower.

scratch17 · Nov 12, 2011

Not that I know much about this, but I'd guess the LPCM is for people like me who have a machine with multi-channel analog outputs and no dts HD MA capability, and the dts HD MA is for those people who decode the sound in a "receiver" or similar device. I could be wrong though.

You're close, Cupboy.

If your Blu Ray player has built-in DTS-MA decoding, you can decode it inside the player if you want. With no HDMI connection to your receiver or pre/pro, you must do this, as the analog inputs on the receiver cannot accept digital audio from LPCM or DTS-MA.

If your receiver or pre/pro has HDMI you can either send a DTS-MA stream to your receiver for decoding there, or you can decode inside the BR player, and set the HDMI output to send LPCM to the receiver.

Steven

JohnN · Nov 15, 2011

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=267548&page=13

I do not like reporting this. 5.1, I believe there is another glitch at 41:27 on the Blu-ray during Wind Up. Front channels. (At about 41:24 on the DVD strangely enough).

F.......please confirm.

More on the first glitch:
The glitch at ~1:18 in Cross Eyed Mary is actually in both front channels of the 5.1 mix. Here's what it looks like in the front L and R channels:

JohnN · Nov 15, 2011

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=267548&page=12
Steven Wilson comments on the Cross-Eyed Mary glitch:
1. http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=7133218&postcount=235
2. http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=7133349&postcount=238

FredSoles · Nov 15, 2011

I wonder why he posts over there with those stereo freaks, and not here where he belongs. Did someone over here tick him off? Did he ever post here?

JohnN · Nov 15, 2011

5.1 - And a third glitch, this one on My God - Read more:
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=267548&page=14

Wind Up glitch:

The glitch is at about 3:57 into the track, and looks quite similar to the Cross Eyed Mary glitch:

wavelength · Nov 15, 2011

MikeP said:
I wonder why he posts over there with those stereo freaks, and not here where he belongs. Did someone over here tick him off? Did he ever post here?

As far as stevehoffman forums goes, there are a number of members there who are into surround - you just have to be on the right thread. They were very supportive during the campaign for the hi-rez 5.1 mix of Aqualung.

Bender · Nov 15, 2011

Mine finally arrived from ImportCDs! I now am OK I have five other items on order with them. I can wait the extra time.

Though, I have been eager to hear this. Will post review later this week.

byrdman7 · Nov 16, 2011

My order of (2) arrived yesterday from ImportCDs. My cost was $76.78 each including shipping. I rated this fine box set as a 10. IMHO it is a rebirth of the original release, it NEVER sounded so good. Locomotive Breath is to die for. The Redbook CD's sound GREAT too, icing on the cake. SW did a GREAT job, I look forward to more efforts like this from Mr. Wilson.

LizardKing · Nov 16, 2011

byrdman7 said:
My order of (2) arrived yesterday from ImportCDs. My cost was $76.78 each including shipping.

Arghhh.... still waiting.... hopefully they get more....

GabeL · Nov 20, 2011

I finally got around to listening to the Quad mix and all in all I prefer the new 5.1 mix. In any case, I'm giving this one a 10 (despite the audible glitches)! Love it!!!

cupboy · Nov 20, 2011

Maybe I should order one from ImportCDs. The one I received from B&N is a bit dinged up. Haven't opened it yet because of that. I can return it to a local B&N within 14 days. I better check to see how many days I have left.

Does ImportCDs package these protectively enough to avoid dings/dents on the slipcase?

wavelength · Nov 20, 2011

When this album came out 40 years ago it was all about the big 3 songs: Aqualung, Cross-Eyed Mary, and Locomotive Breath. Now it is an amazing start-to-finish experience.

dr. simple · Nov 20, 2011

cupboy said:
Does ImportCDs package these protectively enough to avoid dings/dents on the slipcase?

Mine was packaged beautifully.

bayards · Nov 22, 2011

Sublime release! Now having a listen to old quad "The Edgar Winter Group's "They only come out at night"....

neil wilkes · Dec 2, 2011

DaneelOlivaw said:
I don't understand why there's two sets of tracks provided (DTS-MA and LPCM) that offer the same resolution........

Because only LPCM is mandatory for BD players to be capable of decoding in 5.1
Neither DTS-HD MAS or Dolby True HD are supported for lossless 5.1 as a mandatory codec.
DTS is mandatory for Core Audio only, and Dolby True HD for stereo. Early Profile 1 players may well ot be capable of outputting lossless from DTS-HD MAS or Dolby True HD, and will instead output DTS Core Audio and Dolby Digital in these cases, both whilst still lighting the "True HD" or the "DTS-HD MAS" lights on the receiver as these lossy streams are embedded into the bitstream for just these situations.
DTS-HD MAS is usually picked over Dolby True HD as the support is widest, and the hidden core streams sound better too, plus with DTS you need one file - .dtshd - to cover every possible situation whereas with Dolby True HD you have to author with individual .MLP and .ac3 streams, keeping them in sync etc. Much more hassle.

In summary, the only way to guarantee lossless 5.1 at 24/96 on a BD disc is to use LPCM, as all players must be capable of outputting this.
If you use just DTS-HD MAS there will be cases where the actual output is not lossless, and the same applies to True HD.

Hope this clears it up!!

kvsawilson · Dec 3, 2011

On the poll, next to the number 10 it says "Great Surround, Great Fidelity, Great Content". That would sum up my review. Gotta be a 10. With the four extra songs in surround, this is as good as it gets!

K

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