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Very cool, thanks for sharing the circuit board porn. So version 2 really is a chip off the old block .Nostalgia corner
Just found this picture tonight, not sure if I posted it previously but its the very first analogue hardware version of the surround master way back around 2008. I see that I stole a few chips from the middle. It worked fine but there was a weird low level whistle coming from the VCA chips........never did fix that until the DSP.
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Actually Version 1 was (the one in the shitty plastic box- don't get me started!)Very cool, thanks for sharing the circuit board porn. So version 2 really is a chip off the old block .
Circuit geek that I am, may I ask what VCA's you were using? The ones from THAT CORP is the best I know of. And how did you do RMS/LOG sensing in analog?Nostalgia corner
Just found this picture tonight, not sure if I posted it previously but its the very first analogue hardware version of the surround master way back around 2008. I see that I stole a few chips from the middle. It worked fine but there was a weird low level whistle coming from the VCA chips........never did fix that until the DSP.
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Truth is I cannot remember tonight. Will see if I can dig up the circuit in the next few daysCircuit geek that I am, may I ask what VCA's you were using? The ones from THAT CORP is the best I know of. And how did you do RMS/LOG sensing in analog?
Just curious. No bigee. Don't go to lots of extra trouble to answer this!Truth is I cannot remember tonight. Will see if I can dig up the circuit in the next few days
Hey SonicCircuit geek that I am, may I ask what VCA's you were using? The ones from THAT CORP is the best I know of. And how did you do RMS/LOG sensing in analog?
I designed some circuits using (pre-ADI ownership) SSM (Solid State Music) op-amps, great amps, with very low distortion, wide bandwidth with good gain, which was what I wanted. But if you didn't put a capacitor across the differential inputs (as per their datasheet/App Note) it would oscillate. Never found out why!Hey Sonic
We used the Analogue Devices SSM2164
https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/SSM2164.pdf
As I said it has a low level weird whistle about it. Cannot find the schematic on the log conversion but it was a opamp diode thing, the averaging on that proto was not RMS (it is now via DSP)
I see it has both height & depth localization as well as width.Hear is a recent photo of our R+D team working on our stereo encoded surround format:
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Hi PupYou know what would really be cool @chucky3042 & @Overture
There's been a lot of discussions here on the forum about the lament of a quality Universal multi-format Blu-ray/SACD player with analog outs to replace the oppo units. It would be damn cool if Involve could partner up with (*instead of a company that makes Receivers) a smaller company that would make a great quality machine, that you could incorporate some chips into that would be able to do what the Surround Master does.
I'm thinking a company like Emotiva, or better yet, build one yourselves and be a player in that market.
That would be epic Chucky -maybe a huge write-in campaign to Emotiva for a wake up call by the members hereHi Pup
Actually I have tried to contact Emotiva and had no reply! Bloody typical they are behaving like all other big companies. I might give it another bash and see. But yep you are right!
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