LOL! No, I mean, once the deadline hits, how many copies will have been ordered. 2000, 3000, 5000??
Bob Dylan "Time Out Of Mind" - SDE Blu-Ray #8
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Order has been placed. Thanks for the heads up on this one. I'm actually not a huge Dylan fan but I bought this back when it came out and at the time it was a transition point in my life (better and happier) and it got a lot of play back then. Great memories and I'm so looking forward to hearing this in surround, can't wait!!
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I love Dylan and the album, but be prepared to be disapppointed. The Lanois production is gone. This 2022 mix is the equivalent of what "Let It Be Naked" did to Phil Spector's mix of that album, and while I'll buy this still, I MUCH prerfer the original mix.
That's weird , I was just thinking about what the next title would be
And so... "hey how about the quad of Dylan/The Band - Planet Waves"
So this will do , ordered!!
The pre-order is nice. It gives me a few days to think about things.
There is a lot of Dylan I like and there is a lot of Dylan I don't care much for.
I'm not very familiar with this album, so it gives me a few days to listen it and then decide which side of Dylan line this lies.
There is a lot of Dylan I like and there is a lot of Dylan I don't care much for.
I'm not very familiar with this album, so it gives me a few days to listen it and then decide which side of Dylan line this lies.
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As fredblue surmised, hopefully this will open the floodgates to SONY and its associated labels [of which there are many] to consider future SDE ATMOS releases in lieu of Sony's current approach to 360 spatial streaming platform only releases.
And with the availability of considerable real estate on a BD~A only disc ..... perhaps SDE might even consider two~fer releases as well!
Now, if Paul could only get Warner/Rhino on board .... what a real coup that would be!
And with the availability of considerable real estate on a BD~A only disc ..... perhaps SDE might even consider two~fer releases as well!
Now, if Paul could only get Warner/Rhino on board .... what a real coup that would be!
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That's my opinion in a nutshell!
Wow strange not always obvious choices cross genre in the series. I ordered of course, for the sake of completeness
Dylan ordered. Keeping the SDE releases going!
I love the original mix also. Have you heard new mix in the box set set yet? I would think it would be hard to completely lose the Lanois style of layering of guitars, vocals etc. The Lanois mix really enhances Time out of Mind album. The new Atmos mix may be a completely different experience. If you have a slight interest in Dylan, this purchase is an instant purchase IMO.
I never thought Dylan had the best voice in the world. What Dylan is, friends, is a wordsmith.
But you don't know what is happening here, do you, Mr. Jones?
But you don't know what is happening here, do you, Mr. Jones?
I ordered it but wish the Lanois was included,
I'm kinda more leaning towards that TYA prospect from Warner , and the possibility of Warner floodgates....or hell.. dambursts ..from the likes of WEA be they quad....
Or surround , but both on a disc preferably . Anyone want Joni in 4.0 +5.1 ?
We know WEA has a fairly large quad Catalogue, large if we include known shelved quads .
Now of course Sony has Dylan on Desire and Planet Waves(w/The Band) in quad.
Oh well time will tell.
I’m very excited for this release, having listened to this new mix on Apple Music multiple times. I like the stereo remix well enough, but the surround does a better job bridging the remix and the stereo mix, giving elements more room to breathe and retain more of the “swampiness” without sacrificing the sound of a band playing live in the studio.
For me, this new mix has rescued several songs (mainly the even-numbered ones in my case) from “always skip” status. I’ve always felt those songs were to my taste undercooked compositions that were, as a result, over-produced. These new mixes strip it back to give the feel of a band playing together. That’s not without trade-offs.
Someone above compares it to “de-Spectorization.” I think this is more nuanced than that. Like Spector on All Things Must Pass, these tracks were often recorded with maybe a dozen band members playing simultaneously. In this case, though, it wasn’t baked into the master tapes. Each track was recorded individually (with some bleed), including Dylan’s clean vocal that was simultaneously fed through (if I recall) a guitar amp. This mix doesn’t remove the vocal distortion that gives an otherworldly and arguably despondent feel to vocals but it pulls it back.
I’d argue it modestly hurts the songs arguable centerpieces Trying to Get to Heaven and Not Dark Yet, as well as Standing in the Doorway. Those are the odd numbered songs to which I often return, so I can see why those who like the half of the album I tend to skip dislike this mix. But even these favorites I think aren’t blasphemous.
Maybe the most interesting track to compare is the (for some, painfully) long closing track, Highlands — my favorite track. In the original, the music is an endless loop with little variation. It feels like it takes place in a wasteland of sorts. Because this song is so long, though, and that it has a narrative structure less limited by blues repetitions, it has more room for different instruments to come to the fore indifferent verses. As a result, you can hear in action the sorts of decisions the remixer made elsewhere because each verse makes complementary choices. Does it work for this song? I think the droning of the original walks hand-in-hand with the lyrics. I also think it brings a sameness to a track that tests peoples’ patience. So this invites listeners who might listen once and never again to listen more as the music moves through the narrative landscape rather than sit almost statically.
As often with these de-whoeverizing or de-wheneverizing remixes, some cohesion can seem lost in the process. Nevertheless, it allows old ears to hear things anew. Even if we don’t like the new mixes, the result is we may like the original more than before and that’s not a bad thing.
Every album is different but this is arguably what people were hoping for from All Things Must Pass. That isn’t to say this album needed it but many have clamored for it due to the divisiveness. Depending on Dylan’s mood that day, he’s also wanted it — even though much of the sound was as much his idea and desire as Lanois at the time. Plenty to speculate why but it is documented — often enough contradictorily. That’s Dylan for you.
Considering everything he’s recorded subsequently has been self-produced and more stripped back, this album — which is sort of ground zero for “Old Man Bob) — this remix also makes the album sonically more of a piece with his latter day Renaissance. It should make for a more seamless listen.
Revisionary history? Yeah, it can be argued but there is no sign this will replace the original mix.
I had hoped that Revolver would get this sort of supplementary release (not betting on it whatever Giles Martin murmured or tweeted). Thanks to Target, I was able to get that box and the Bootleg Series box that contains this mix for about $70 each. That felt a bit more important since I suspected I might be throwing another $30 at a stand-alone surround mix. While I wasn’t banking on the $38 I just paid for this, it is one of those “take my money” releases for me. I’m glad for those of you who are purchasing as endorsement of these SDE limited runs, and genuinely hope you find something to engage you in it. This album is a grower. At least parts of it — just no knowing which parts for which person.
I’ve been out of the loop a few days. So glad to wake up to this news — especially with the limited window. Could’ve been a close call.
For me, this new mix has rescued several songs (mainly the even-numbered ones in my case) from “always skip” status. I’ve always felt those songs were to my taste undercooked compositions that were, as a result, over-produced. These new mixes strip it back to give the feel of a band playing together. That’s not without trade-offs.
Someone above compares it to “de-Spectorization.” I think this is more nuanced than that. Like Spector on All Things Must Pass, these tracks were often recorded with maybe a dozen band members playing simultaneously. In this case, though, it wasn’t baked into the master tapes. Each track was recorded individually (with some bleed), including Dylan’s clean vocal that was simultaneously fed through (if I recall) a guitar amp. This mix doesn’t remove the vocal distortion that gives an otherworldly and arguably despondent feel to vocals but it pulls it back.
I’d argue it modestly hurts the songs arguable centerpieces Trying to Get to Heaven and Not Dark Yet, as well as Standing in the Doorway. Those are the odd numbered songs to which I often return, so I can see why those who like the half of the album I tend to skip dislike this mix. But even these favorites I think aren’t blasphemous.
Maybe the most interesting track to compare is the (for some, painfully) long closing track, Highlands — my favorite track. In the original, the music is an endless loop with little variation. It feels like it takes place in a wasteland of sorts. Because this song is so long, though, and that it has a narrative structure less limited by blues repetitions, it has more room for different instruments to come to the fore indifferent verses. As a result, you can hear in action the sorts of decisions the remixer made elsewhere because each verse makes complementary choices. Does it work for this song? I think the droning of the original walks hand-in-hand with the lyrics. I also think it brings a sameness to a track that tests peoples’ patience. So this invites listeners who might listen once and never again to listen more as the music moves through the narrative landscape rather than sit almost statically.
As often with these de-whoeverizing or de-wheneverizing remixes, some cohesion can seem lost in the process. Nevertheless, it allows old ears to hear things anew. Even if we don’t like the new mixes, the result is we may like the original more than before and that’s not a bad thing.
Every album is different but this is arguably what people were hoping for from All Things Must Pass. That isn’t to say this album needed it but many have clamored for it due to the divisiveness. Depending on Dylan’s mood that day, he’s also wanted it — even though much of the sound was as much his idea and desire as Lanois at the time. Plenty to speculate why but it is documented — often enough contradictorily. That’s Dylan for you.
Considering everything he’s recorded subsequently has been self-produced and more stripped back, this album — which is sort of ground zero for “Old Man Bob) — this remix also makes the album sonically more of a piece with his latter day Renaissance. It should make for a more seamless listen.
Revisionary history? Yeah, it can be argued but there is no sign this will replace the original mix.
I had hoped that Revolver would get this sort of supplementary release (not betting on it whatever Giles Martin murmured or tweeted). Thanks to Target, I was able to get that box and the Bootleg Series box that contains this mix for about $70 each. That felt a bit more important since I suspected I might be throwing another $30 at a stand-alone surround mix. While I wasn’t banking on the $38 I just paid for this, it is one of those “take my money” releases for me. I’m glad for those of you who are purchasing as endorsement of these SDE limited runs, and genuinely hope you find something to engage you in it. This album is a grower. At least parts of it — just no knowing which parts for which person.
I’ve been out of the loop a few days. So glad to wake up to this news — especially with the limited window. Could’ve been a close call.
Well, IronWaffle. Thank you for that very thoughtful post. We will see what we get, but I for one am looking forward to it. No, it was never one of my favorite Dylan albums, but I thought I'd take a chance, and I also wanted to support SDE in hopes they will keep on keepin' on bringing us music.
Ordered . 'Love Sick' is worth the entry price alone .
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I look forward to this. I cannot stand Lanois's productions any more than I can tolerate Phil Spector's, Felton Jarvis's, or T-Bone Burnett's. Less is more!
I really love this album and it was an instant purchase for me. I didn’t get the Fragments box but could not pass on this.
As someone else said, finally a really top level SDE album. And what possibilities it opens! Dare we dream of...the 5.1 mix of Miles Davis’ A Tribute to Jack Johnson that’s in the vaults?
As someone else said, finally a really top level SDE album. And what possibilities it opens! Dare we dream of...the 5.1 mix of Miles Davis’ A Tribute to Jack Johnson that’s in the vaults?
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