Speak for yourself, Pupster I'm a YOUNG BUCK!
I've said it before; I haven't had my hearing checked in forever; and I think I don't want to know.
Speak for yourself, Pupster I'm a YOUNG BUCK!
I've said it before; I haven't had my hearing checked in forever; and I think I don't want to know.
The wavs are from the Dolby, but wouldn’t they look the same?
I really wonder who chooses the codecs these albums are released in. I mean you go to the trouble of locating the multitracks.....hire Steve Wilson to remix an iconic album .... design the gatefold packaging which includes a RBCD when just as easily the album could've [and frankly should've] been released on a single hybrid SACD which includes the CD layer and a HI RES STEREO/MULTICHANNEL layer....thus doing FULL justice to the album itself and Steve's STELLAR efforts.
Does it really take a genius to figure this out? And insult to injury: a DTS option and at the very least a 96/24 stereo remix could've [and frankly should've] been included.
re: Dolby Digital/AC3
frequency band:
There is no "16kHz cutoff"
e.g., left channel, Britney Spears 'Toxic', decoded from .ac3:
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Dialnorm:
All DD encodes have a dialnorm value in metadata, it is mandatory. It is meant to 'normalize' overall playback level *between different Dolby Digital sources* so that dialogue levels are the same 'comfortable' level for all those sources. Again, dialnorm adjusts overall level, not just the dialogue/center channel. It considers a dialogue level -31dBfs below digital peak (0dBfs, the loudest you can go), as 'ideal' for home playback, and a dialnorm value is programmed in to a DVD as DD stream metadata to 'tell' the decoder how loud its dialogue is. Most commonly for DVDs, that is a dialnorm value of -27, which means that the movie soundtrack has been mixed so that dialogue levels are 4dB (31-27=4) louder than 'ideal', reflecting cinema reference standards but considered louder than 'ideal' for home. Thus the decoder will reduce volume on all channels by 4dB for this program, so everything stays in balance but the dialogue is not 'too loud' for home playback. Meanwhile, a Dolby-encoded TV broadcast stream might have a dialnorm value of -20, so it will be attenuated by -11 dB (31-20=11) by your decoder, to keep the dialogue level at the 'target'. When switching between these two Dolby sources, the perceived dialogue level will be the same (-31 dB fs) , ie.., it won't suddenly sound a lot louder when you go from DVD to TV (-27dbfs -->-20dbfs). That's the point of dialnorm.
tl;dr: it is equivalent to turning the volume knob down on your AVR, nothing more. You are free to adjust the volume back upward by whatever amount suits you if the idea bothers you.
NB1: since DTS encodes do NOT use dialnorm, they typically will NOT be level matched to the equivalent DD encode, upon playback. They may well be louder. (However, to complicate matters, some THX-certified AVRs automatically applied -4dB to DTS sources, in an attempt to even the playing field). This makes it difficult to compare DD to DTS *fairly* by 'trusting your ears'.
NB2: dialnorm of -27 is common for DD movie soundtracks on DVD. For DD content on music discs, e.g., it can be different. A dialnorm of -31 means no level adjustment is done on decode. Typically the AVR receiving a DD bitstream can be made to display the dialnorm value, although my Denon only does it briefly, at the start of a DD program.
NB4: dialnorm is also used for Dolby's Dynamic Range Control (DRC) function, which is an *optional* function. If present, it may be on or off by default in your device, and thus it is worth checking.
The *original* Dolby Surround (where the surround channels were mono) had a 7khz frequency limit for surrounds.
The 'plain' 'Dolby Pro Logic' was also band limited.
DPLII was/is full-range (for Music and Movie modes at least)
I expect the modern DSU (Dolby Surround Upmixer) is too.
NB3 was sacked. ;>
This sounds great. I love this music and dolby or not I am happy with the sound. And the mix
When this came out Neil said he heard the high resolution version which smoked this Dolby version but that is hard to believe
This is highly reccomended now a little pricey but worth it.
The lossless 5.1 sounds way better. Believe.When this came out Neil said he heard the high resolution version which smoked this Dolby version but that is hard to believe
i didn’t know it was released in a lossless version. Do you have a Discogs link for it?The lossless version is really that much better.
It was not releasedi didn’t know it was released in a lossless version. Do you have a Discogs link for it?
But apparently some QQrs have it.....It was not released
Those who think it sounds 'much better' in lossless versus Dolby...how so? Perhaps you can point to a particular passage where the difference is especially striking?
I have both and would be happy to investigate.
Different mastering would affect the sound regardless of Dolby encoding.
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