Edgar Winter's White Trash - Actually Prepared For Japan Release!

[steelydave]

I'm not sure how this passed me by, but for some reason I thought the only way we knew about the quad mix of Edgar Winter's White Trash was because of the Mike Robin underground reel.

FredBlue recently brought to my attention that it looks like it was set for release in Japan as part of the first wave of CBS/Sony Japanese SQ releases, which I think came out in mid-late 1971, shortly before their US counterparts which started in January 1972. The inner sleeves of this first wave of SQ Quad albums listed all the other releases in the series, with catalog numbers and thumbnail pictures. Here's a close-up picture of the Edgar Winter entry:

As you can see, it was even issued a catalog number and everything, so it must have been really close to release.

The 'first wave' releases depicted on the sleeve were as follows:

ECPL-54002 - Tammy Wynette 'We Sure Can Love Each Other'

EPCN-64001 - Chase 'Self-Titled'
EPCN-64002 - Poco 'Deliverin'
EPCN-64003 - Edgar Winter's White Trash 'Self-Titled' [Never Released]

SOPL-34001 - The Byrds 'Byrdmaniax' [Japan-only Release]
SOPL-34002 - Ray Price 'For The Good Times'
SOPL-34003 - Johnny Mathis 'Love Story' [Japan-only Release]
SOPL-34004 - Johnny Cash 'At San Quentin'
SOPL-34005 - Percy Faith 'Romeo & Juliet'
SOPL-34006 - Lynn Anderson 'Rose Garden'
SOPL-34007 - Bloomfield/Kooper/Stills 'Super Session'
SOPL-34008/9 - Miles Davis 'Bitches Brew'

SOPN-44001 - Andy Williams 'You've Got A Friend'
SOPN-44002 - Percy Faith 'Black Magic Woman'
SOPN-44003 - Ray Conniff 'Love Story' [Not pictured on sleeve]
SOPN-44004 - Santana 'Abraxas'
SOPN-44005 - Janis Joplin 'Pearl'
SOPN-44006 - Andy Williams 'Love Story'
SOPN-44007 - The Raiders 'Indian Reservation'
SOPN-44008 - Barbra Streisand 'Stoney End'
SOPN-44009 - Barbra Streisand 'Funny Girl Soundtrack'


The interesting thing is that the next (and final) release sequentially following Edgar Winter was French easy-listening artist Caravelli's "Simon & Garfunkel's Greatest Hits" (EPCN-64004) which must have come out slightly after the first wave of releases. It also has a sleeve with thumbnails and catalog numbers of other SQ Quadraphonic releases, but all reference to Edgar Winter's White Trash has been removed. The decision to scrap White Trash must have been made pretty quickly, because if the Caravelli album was issued very far in to 1972 it would have borne phonographic copyright dates, which it doesn't. So if you collect Japanese quad vinyl and have been wondering why the catalog numbers jump from EPCN-64002 to 64004, it's because of the aborted White Trash release.

FredBlue suggested to me the reason for the cancellation was maybe because they couldn't get the quad mix to encode well in SQ, but I think that it was because by the end of 1971 (when these quad LP's were released) Edgar Winter had already broken up the White Trash group so they weren't an 'active band' any more. By 1972 he'd have started his next group, the one that would release 'They Only Come Out At Night' the same year, and in quad in early '73. It makes you wonder what else CBS mixed for quad between 1968 and 1971 and shelved, because they felt it wasn't 'current' enough by the time they finally started putting out quad releases at the beginning of 1972. Between the Robin reels, SQ sampler LPs, trade advertisements and so on, it seems to indicate that there were more than a few!

 

[kap'n krunch]

Here's to the people in Sony Japan releasing Bitches Brew and all of the goodies that can be released in Quad SACD....

At this stage, I'll expect ANYTHING!!!!

(I was searching some old threads started by Cai and , man would he have had been blown away by ALL the stuff that has been released...since 2008!!!..yes, it's been THAT long!!!)

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Just thought I'd add this Edgar Winter listing from Ken Sessions Tab book. As far as it got was a review copy exclusively for Audio magazine (for one).

I suppose both White Trash and Roadwork were scheduled for release, but someone last minute decided otherwise.









It's important to Note that it was the various Record Labels that supplied his quad record listings.

 

[steelydave]

Wow, very interesting! Anything else unreleased listed in that book?

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Yes there are a few, not too many actually.

Just off the top of my head there's all 4 Carole King QS quad discs on ODE

and the UK SQ ELO NO ANSWER on EMI/HARVEST and CBS GERMANY SQ of BIRTH CONTROL-HOODOO MAN (unless it exists ?)



I'll peruse it somemore and see what I can find worthwhile, but it won't happen til I'm at home with it, so maybe this weekend.



FWIW: AUDIO MAGAZINE reviewed that Roadwork disc in quad (same # too), with some other quads by Edgar Winter that were released.

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Wow, very interesting! Anything else unreleased listed in that book?

So....I created a thread at this site.


https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...tings-from-his-book-(73-)&p=340994#post340994

 

[Q-Eight]

It makes you wonder what else CBS mixed for quad between 1968 and 1971 and shelved, because they felt it wasn't 'current' enough by the time they finally started putting out quad releases at the beginning of 1972. Between the Robin reels, SQ sampler LPs, trade advertisements and so on, it seems to indicate that there were more than a few!

Brother Johnny's Debut, Self-titled album was also mixed to Quad and left unreleased.
Which would make for a delightful set of 2-fer's for D-V:

Johnny:
Self-Titled
Saints & Sinners
Still Alive and Well
John Dawson Winter III

Eddie baby:
White Trash
They Only Come Out at Night
Shock Treatment
Jasmine Nightdreams

Of course, there's also the Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer album and I also suspect Roadwork was done as well as many have accused the album of being a "hidden SQ" for decades.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

I'm throwing this in here for historical reference. It is some full scans of the Front and Back of that insert that I noticed in my latest early (1972) Sony SQ LP.
SOLL 74003 (Simon & Garfunkel Song Book - Shiro Michi + Brass) *I'm thinking this will sound nice and discrete (haven't heard it decoded yet) for an SQ; however the music has that early funky/wacko sythn. sound to it.

Too bad we don't have someone here that can read Japanese, as the Back side (?) has some interesting looking SQ information.

It's also interesting that the last two (lower right) don't have the pics. which are:

Jun Nambara Quintet With Strings – Best Screen Music in SQ (SOLL 74001)

and
Love Live Life – 殺人十章 = 10 Chapters Of Murder (SOLL 74002)
*This is a rare and interesting release based from an oddball book- Colin Wilson's "Encyclopaedia of Murder"
I've heard the decode from this and it's one the best SQ's I've ever heard as far as discreteness. I'm thinking, they wanted to really showcase what SQ could do on this early SQ stuff (of course depending on how adept the engineers were at SQ mixing/encoding.)

I've included some rough pics of those two also at the bottom.

 

[steelydave]

I've heard that 10 Chapters of Murder album, and while musically it's great, sort of in the jazz-rock vein of Chicago II & III, the lyrical content is on the crass side of shocking - roughly translated song titles like 'Why is it Bad to Kill a Mom?', 'Hentai Man Eats Boiled Girl' and 'Slaughter at Auschwitz' (which opens with a male voice shouting in German over a megaphone, followed by the sound of crowds screaming, followed by what sounds like marching band music) give you some idea of how much so.

The ironic thing is that as a limited-issue single-inventory quad it's probably the rarest of all the CBS Japan quads - it regularly sells for 400 bucks on discogs, and I've seen it go for twice that on Japanese auction sites.

Also, that insert shows two of the Japan-only CBS SQ releases from western artists: The Byrds Byrdmaniax (3rd row, far right beside the White Trash album) and Johnny Mathis Love Story (4th row, 2nd from left).

Too bad we don't have someone here that can read Japanese, as the Back side (?) has some interesting looking SQ information.

You can paste pictures into Google Translate (translate.google.com) now and get pretty decent (though maybe not 100% perfect) results back: