Listening to in Dolby Atmos Streaming, via Tidal/Apple/Amazon

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Two interesting What HiFi review articles on music streaming (not Atmos so much), the first on Tidal, the second, more of an overview.

Tidal review (Nov):
https://www.whathifi.com/tidal/review#xenforo-comments-111526

Best music streaming services 2024: free streams to hi-res audio (Sept):
https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/streaming/best-music-streaming-services

Tidal fair better than I expected. Overall, I'm personally happy with Tidal, but the TV interface sure is glitchy, which they don't mention at all. (Maybe that's just local to me then!)

I didn't know much about Qobuz, so I found that interesting too. They say they are for audiophiles, yet they don't have any surround at all. Not even vintage surround? It rather reminded me of those initial audiophile music BRs that were coming out without the inclusion of surround mixes (before SDE.COM took over and showed them how to do it properly). And look what happened to them!
 
I didn't know much about Qobuz, so I found that interesting too. They say they are for audiophiles, yet they don't have any surround at all. Not even vintage surround? It rather reminded me of those initial audiophile music BRs that were coming out without the inclusion of surround mixes (before SDE.COM took over and showed them how to do it properly). And look what happened to them!

I would estimate that most audiophiles aren't into surround. Qobuz is an HDTracks/ProStudioMasters competitor. It is a stereo world. But they are of course strapped by the fact that there is not an easy "download and playback" format for Dolby Atmos or even 5.1 for that matter.
 
if you hit "Info" on an individual track to view credits, it'll often have a "Mixing Engineer" credit. a quick search to see what else they've mixed and if they're credited to any other Immersive mixes and if there's any extra info on their work in Immersive audio often brings up some results.

edit: i should add, this is how i do it on the iPhone, i don't know what happens on the Apple TV 😅🤷🏻‍♀️

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Unfortunately Tidal doesn't give so much info :(
 
I would estimate that most audiophiles aren't into surround. Qobuz is an HDTracks/ProStudioMasters competitor. It is a stereo world. But they are of course strapped by the fact that there is not an easy "download and playback" format for Dolby Atmos or even 5.1 for that matter.
I don’t really know how many of us consider ourselves to be “audiophiles,” probably because the term has become a bit loaded to mean “sucker for $10,000 power cables.” And those ARE available, if not financially to most of us here.

I’m sure some of my associates would put me in an “audiophile” category, because I have a dedicated room with pretty good gear, and a fair amount of overkill when it comes to quality. I’ve replaced a few power cables, but mostly because of length.

I was a bit concerned when my local brick & mortar store is called “The Stereo Shoppe,” but they do a fair amount of home theater installations with immersive audio, so I’m good with them. They have given me quite a bit of attention regarding a turntable that can work with CD-4 discs. I like them a lot.
 
Lossy or lossless, never uncompressed.

All streaming platforms use lossy Atmos.
I don't know if this is true about either streaming or Atmos. I'd like to propose s unit of audio. 16-bit sampling, 2 channels, sampled at 44.1Khz we'll call the unit an Earful. So an ordinary CD has one Earful of audio. Surround carries an extra Earful and a half for the rear and subwoofer channels. 2.1 Earfuls. What most don't like to admit, baby boomers cannot hear an Earful anymore. So the tricks played by Dolby and others are just that. Psychological tricks. Some people might pay to hear these tricks, especially since they would really like to listen to them on their phones. They probably don't remember when phones were wired. Sometime today I'd like to go listen to my old Onkyo and hear a blu Ray CD over HDMI tickling my speakers. That's mainly because it's my aged birthday today,
 
I’m surprised there hasn’t been more discussion about Queen I. I finally got around to listening to this and it really is a great Atmos mix. Plenty of discrete action all around and good clarity and punch. Hopefully this is the start of more Queen albums being mixed to Atmos. Although any physical releases would likely be limited to expensive box sets.

 
Not the albums (yet) but Apple Music does have an exclusive NYE DJ Mix by Bjork. In Atmos as well!
I was just about to post this album. Does whet my appetite for her catalogue to upgrade.

Another oddment that was just added that I’d never expect is this 1970s/1980s anime soundtrack for one of the Yamato (Star Blazers in the U.S.) films that might pique the interest of a few. The mix isn’t anything to write home about but there are some nice themes. Recommended for fans of either 70s soundtracks or anime.


Any rare person who is into this might want to seek out the 5.1 Blu-ray soundtrack of the show’s modern remake, Yamato 2199. The original composer’s son does a mix of faithful reproductions of the vintage score along with new compositions, all sounding “better” than the originals whose masters are long gone. The Blu-ray compiles many but not all the tracks from the multiple CD volumes.
 
I don't know if this is true about either streaming or Atmos. I'd like to propose s unit of audio. 16-bit sampling, 2 channels, sampled at 44.1Khz we'll call the unit an Earful. So an ordinary CD has one Earful of audio. Surround carries an extra Earful and a half for the rear and subwoofer channels. 2.1 Earfuls. What most don't like to admit, baby boomers cannot hear an Earful anymore. So the tricks played by Dolby and others are just that. Psychological tricks. Some people might pay to hear these tricks, especially since they would really like to listen to them on their phones. They probably don't remember when phones were wired. Sometime today I'd like to go listen to my old Onkyo and hear a blu Ray CD over HDMI tickling my speakers. That's mainly because it's my aged birthday today,
I listened to the Blu Ray of Abbey Road on my Onkyo. No Atmos, but it was pretty cool in 7.1. HDMI earned its boots. One cable, all channels, no thinking, and since these boxes do ARC, I could have watched the Beatles if they'd released video. But it was a pretty nice surprise for an old guy.

Only on hiccup. When I tried turning off my TV, it all shut down. But there was no video! Oh well... od tech. At lest I got a few Earfuls.
 
I listened to the Blu Ray of Abbey Road on my Onkyo. No Atmos, but it was pretty cool in 7.1. HDMI earned its boots. One cable, all channels, no thinking, and since these boxes do ARC, I could have watched the Beatles if they'd released video. But it was a pretty nice surprise for an old guy.

Only on hiccup. When I tried turning off my TV, it all shut down. But there was no video! Oh well... od tech. At lest I got a few Earfuls.
Yeah, it is probably a handshaking thing. I need to have the TV when I start playing. Once it starts playing I can turn off the TV (or use the option on the Oppo to turn the display off). Sometimes ATMOS flac files need to have the TV on the entire time.
 
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