More stealth quad albums

[jaybird100]

I bought this cd on a curiosity type of whim , hoping it might be a long lost album of Cosmic Courier fame and possibly quad SQ encoded.
And it is....yay.
There is no indication on the disc its quad , unlike the many others from 73 , onwards , that were recorded at Dierks Studio as quad Compilations , ie SCI FI PARTY , PLANETEN SIT-IN , GALACTIC SUPERMARKET , and ETC...

The liner notes, although somewhat sparse , indicate this is from 1973 , Sound produced by Dieter Dierks for the Cosmic Couriers at the Dierks Studio .
Transferred from the original analog tapes. And Remastered at Dierks Studios.
So this is an unreleased "Stealth" quad album.
And also available on LP.

Weird thing is the album number , which is the same as the number on Planeten Sit-in ...KM 58.013-2....So it's a new Cosmic Courier album from the 1973 Sessions

Gilles Zeitschiff 2 , Cargo Records , issued 2023

Perhaps we will see more released from the Dierks Studio , vault archive ?

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Nice find!

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Does anyone know about the mention in discogs , that the Stereo album by Donald Byrd....Blackbird , is actually an SQ encoded stealth album ?

I'm just curious as to where this source originated and of course whether it's a legit stealth SQ Quad album ?

 

[steelydave]

I don't believe it for a second. IMO it's a combination of wishful thinking and "broken telephone" based on the 'Also Available on Quad Tape' hype stickers that U/A put on the original pressings of stereo albums that also had Q8 release.

Almost all (or at least of all the ones that I've heard) of the U/A quad mixes, including the two Donald Byrd albums have a great deal of information mixed to "quad center" (ie identical information in all four speakers) which would absolutely rule them out as incompatible for SQ encoding and decoding.

U/A had several CD-4 test cuts done at the JVC Cutting Center in Hollywood, which tells you where their heads were at with regards to possible quad LP releases, but obviously the whole enterprise was abandoned in mid-1974 when they gave up on quad less than a year after announcing their first bunch of Q8s.

 

[MidiMagic]

I don't believe it for a second. IMO it's a combination of wishful thinking and "broken telephone" based on the 'Also Available on Quad Tape' hype stickers that U/A put on the original pressings of stereo albums that also had Q8 release.

Almost all (or at least of all the ones that I've heard) of the U/A quad mixes, including the two Donald Byrd albums have a great deal of information mixed to "quad center" (ie identical information in all four speakers) which would absolutely rule them out as incompatible for SQ encoding and decoding.

U/A had several CD-4 test cuts done at the JVC Cutting Center in Hollywood, which tells you where their heads were at with regards to possible quad LP releases, but obviously the whole enterprise was abandoned in mid-1974 when they gave up on quad less than a year after announcing their first bunch of Q8s.

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Wrong matrix. QS would do it perfectly.

 

[fredblue]

hmm i dunno, seems quite unlikely to me.. afaik UA only released a couple of matrix encoded discs, 1974's "A Man For All Seasons" by John Gregory & His Orchestra in the UK (SQ encoded) and 1976's "The Painter" by Paul Anka in the USA (QS encoded).. and unlike the Donald Byrd's they had no Q8 Quad counterpart

 

[fizzywiggs41]

While I think it's a stretch for this United Artists album , the real possibility that an engineer mixing a quad album for the Q8 market could have, if they wanted, ....to encode via an SQ or QS Encoder on hand at the studio.

I often wondered if someone went that extra mile , either for their own enjoyment or because there was an Encoder.

It was announced in Billboard that any GRT Classical quad recording on Q8 would also be made available on an encoded cassette, so given the number of discrete Q8 'S only ......made by Capitol, GRT , U.A. , Ampex , London , Polygram , Motown , etc......one has to wonder ?

Now of course with Capitol..we all know the bogus claim made by Sansui 's mucky muck.
But given the shear number of Q8 product.. I think the possibility is there, but I suppose we'll never know for certain until an engineer that was there, confirms such an event.