DVD/DTS Poll Muse - The Resistance [DTS/DD DVD+CD]

[tlake6659]

This.

Take note the exact reason I joined these forums was due to this album. I heard the unofficial DTS copy of this floating around, and it sounded terrible. That’s an understatement. The channels were out of order, and the compression on the DTS source vs. the Dolby Digital source is unbelievable.

I was fortunate to find a hard copy of the box set which includes the 5.1 disc.

Once I heard the Dolby Digital track, my opinion of the 5.1 mix completely changed.

Thanks for posting this. The Dolby Digital 5.1 mastering is light years better than the ultra compressed DTS mastering.

 

[TheGreatRamseythe2nd]

Thanks for posting this. The Dolby Digital 5.1 mastering is light years better than the ultra compressed DTS mastering.

I did not know this. Thanks.

 

[gorman]

I looked at eBay but could not find the disc... kind of sad I'm gonna miss this in Dolby Digital. :-(

Unless it's this one... but the price... https://www.ebay.it/itm/195707864559

 

[wiredsol]

Thanks for posting this. The Dolby Digital 5.1 mastering is light years better than the ultra compressed DTS mastering.

Dolby Digital on DVD was encoded in a bitrate of 448kbps for 5.1 tracks. While 5.1 DTS tracks typically used a 750kbps bitrate. DTS would claim they were superior because they used less compression.Jan 30, 2023

 

[wiredsol]

You may have that backwards fine chap

 

[edisonbaggins]

He might have been referring to dynamic compression.
It’s not unheard of for different streams to have unique mastering.

 

[himey]

Dolby Digital on DVD was encoded in a bitrate of 448kbps for 5.1 tracks. While 5.1 DTS tracks typically used a 750kbps bitrate. DTS would claim they were superior because they used less compression.Jan 30, 2023

Mix and/or mastering is more important than the format.

 

[gorman]

He might have been referring to dynamic compression.
It’s not unheard of for different streams to have unique mastering.

On top of this, I remember reading about listening tests where it turned out that DTS *needed* the higher bitrate to reach parity with DD at lower bitrates. Sooo... definitely not a clear cut difference even when we talk about compression (not dynamic compression, the actual bitrates of files).

 

[himey]

On top of this, I remember reading about listening tests where it turned out that DTS *needed* the higher bitrate to reach parity with DD at lower bitrates. Sooo... definitely not a clear cut difference even when we talk about compression (not dynamic compression, the actual bitrates of files).

Are you thinking of Dolby Digital Plus? DD+ is an upgrade I believe, compared to the older compression formats.

 

[ssully]

Dolby Digital on DVD was encoded in a bitrate of 448kbps for 5.1 tracks. While 5.1 DTS tracks typically used a 750kbps bitrate. DTS would claim they were superior because they used less compression.Jan 30, 2023

He was referring to the dynamic range compression -- the mastering -- not the data compression.

The DD is apparently far less DR compressed than the DTS version. See https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/muse-the-resistance-dts-dd-dvd-cd.17487/post-665585

 

[gorman]

Are you thinking of Dolby Digital Plus? DD+ is an upgrade I believe, compared to the older compression formats.

No. Original DD and DTS.
If I find I will post the relevant PDF I read.