Music Media Helper (Tools for Multichannel Audio & Music Videos)

HomerJAU · 2025-02-12T20:56:50-0500

New MMH 9 Beta 3 update is now available (bug fixes) (no version number change) download form link below:

Download full installer here - you won't get an auto update notification as version number has not been changed
https://reva.blob.core.windows.net/mmh9/beta/MMHInstaller.msi

Change log since last update to beta 3:
MMH 9 beta 3 had a bug in Tag Editor (was not updating 'Disc Count' column in Grids - fixed
Updated MKVToolnix to v90.0 (Important TrueHD Atmos fix resulting in improved syncing for some files)
Added Duration column as a visible column for Extract Audio from MKV tool.

THX
Garry

HomerJAU · 2025-02-12T21:05:25-0500

One more item today: CUE FILES FOR KODI

I had a user reported MMH was creating wrong CUE file times (comparing MMH UI to CUE file times and he was fixing by editing the cue file, so a reminder to all:

Prepare for a long read:

CUE file times must be it the format: Minutes:Seconds:Frames to comply with the CUE spec. Example: 03:05:45

Kodi actually converts the 'Frames' to microseconds (as I found out a year or so back) thanks to a QQ member here.

There are 75 frames per second, so frames should never be > 75 for Kodi as it blindly converts that number to microseconds. If that number is > 75 you add to the Seconds value in Kodi.

Example: If you create a CUE file for 3 minute 5 seconds and 150 frames 03:05:150

Kodi converts to this: 03:07.0000000 for its player, it 'incorrectly' converts 150 frames to 2 seconds (technically correct since the spec says 75 frame per sec and you entered 150 (150/75 = 2 secs) Now your startime when playing your edited CUE is 2 seconds different to its authored start time.

DO NOT ENTER CREATE OR EDIT CUE FILES to wrongly enter milliseconds or microseconds for Kodi. It must be 2 digits (Frames)

MMH and Matroska uses microseconds internally and MMH converts to frames on export to a CUE, importing from a CUE MMH converts frames to microseconds

SIDE NOTE: Unfortunately this is not a lossless conversion as 1/75 is this recurring infinite number: 0.0133333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

Since Atmos is at 48000Hz each 'frame' is every 0.02083333333333333333333333333333333 milliseconds so all this means CUES and high res audio are not perfect matches

Its *VERY* close to perfect but its not (like DSF to PCM conversions, so close but not perfect, inaudible IMO)

With Kodi 21.2 you should be be dropping CUEs and tagging and scanning into the Kodi library/database without a cue!! Then Kodi has the exact track Start Time as it was authored in the BDA (but of course, those chapters aren't always correct either LOL).

Anyway end of long read (if you made it here)

leefarber · 2025-02-12T21:29:55-0500

Thanks Garry. In the Extract MKV function, after getting tags from MusicBrainz, when you click “Copy Track Titles To Edit” it’s still showing the track title, then a line, then the artist name (i.e “Story Never Told|Opeth”) rather than just the track title (as @marpow posted earlier). This doesn’t happen in MMH8. Strange!

Also, I still can’t get MMH9 to pull my preferences from MMH8 and I’ve followed your instructions to the letter. So frustrating!

marpow · 2025-02-12T22:07:55-0500

Thank you Garry for update, I will check out on next rip, all caught up for now.

HomerJAU · 2025-02-12T23:24:36-0500

leefarber said:
then the artist name (i.e “Story Never Told|Opeth”) rather than just the track title

But if you save that does it update the track title correctly. MMH should split that text into two: The track titles and the track Artist with the vertical bar removed. This was an attempt to allow users to edit both title and track artist(s), when the track has multiple artist like: Elton John with Kikki Dee (Kodi then knows the track has two artist and displays info fan art for both artists when track is playing.

Does it do that! Forget about how the edit text is formatted, does it split and save the data back to the grid as I described?