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[fizzywiggs41]

I recently encountered a silly situation with UPS . They actually stated it was
too cold to deliver.
Yet that same day I traveled, by bus yet, half way across the city , and caught another bus to complete my journey.....and later did the same in reverse. This was mid week , and yes it was cold. So for three days they would not deliver because of the weather.

But Amazon takes the cake for crappy service. Twice last month I had a single CD in a prime delivery envelope just willy nilly tossed on the front step ! Whereas my mailbox is triple size , and could easily accommodate the delivery, and I live in an apartment , ....so anyone could have taken those envelopes. If I hadn't read that "item has been delivered " , well, who knows how long they would have just lay there !!

Just thought I'd share some of my negative experiences with deliveries.

 

[mandrix]

I actually have good UPS service here. Fed-Ex...well, never know. Bought my last AVR, dude rolled up over my lawn and made a big show out of lifting it out. I picked it up with one hand and carried it up the steps. lol. Guy had to be a third of my age.
And always talking on those damn phones. Never understood why someone has to be constantly chattering about nothing all the time.

I've had that "undeliverable" crap with USPS. They just don't want to drive down the driveway in my scary dark woods I guess.
The USPS must be recycling employees like toilet paper. Over the years I usually had one person for years delivering everything. Now I don't know any of them, and "informed delivery" often says by 9 PM! I mean WTF.

This one USPS delivery gal used to roll up with her jams going so loud I could hear them in the house. Like who cares, you know? Same one told me "honey, you wouldn't want my job". sheeeit. Most of these people I think have no work ethic. I was out the house and making a living at 16 and at 19 in the Army, and they're whining about driving around all day making deliveries? Gimme a break, please.

Seems endemic these days. In fact I don't think many have any sort of ethics, let alone a work ethic.

 

[barfle]

But Amazon takes the cake for crappy service. Twice last month I had a single CD in a prime delivery envelope just willy nilly tossed on the front step ! Whereas my mailbox is triple size , and could easily accommodate the delivery, and I live in an apartment , ....so anyone could have taken those envelopes. If I hadn't read that "item has been delivered " , well, who knows how long they would have just lay there !!

Just thought I'd share some of my negative experiences with deliveries.

As far as I know, it’s illegal for anything but Postal mail to be put in a postal mail box. I haven’t checked regulations recently, but I know that used to be the case.

 

[mandrix]

As far as I know, it’s illegal for anything but Postal mail to be put in a postal mail box. I haven’t checked regulations recently, but I know that used to be the case.

Well USPS has a contract with Amazon so I don't know how all that plays out?

 

[Jim.olga]

I actually have good UPS service here. Fed-Ex...well, never know. Bought my last AVR, dude rolled up over my lawn and made a big show out of lifting it out. I picked it up with one hand and carried it up the steps. lol. Guy had to be a third of my age.
And always talking on those damn phones. Never understood why someone has to be constantly chattering about nothing all the time.

I've had that "undeliverable" crap with USPS. They just don't want to drive down the driveway in my scary dark woods I guess.
The USPS must be recycling employees like toilet paper. Over the years I usually had one person for years delivering everything. Now I don't know any of them, and "informed delivery" often says by 9 PM! I mean WTF.

This one USPS delivery gal used to roll up with her jams going so loud I could hear them in the house. Like who cares, you know? Same one told me "honey, you wouldn't want my job". sheeeit. Most of these people I think have no work ethic. I was out the house and making a living at 16 and at 19 in the Army, and they're whining about driving around all day making deliveries? Gimme a break, please.

Seems endemic these days. In fact I don't think many have any sort of ethics, let alone a work ethic.

Yeah. She should have experienced being a paperboy for the Gary, Indiana Post Tribune in the mid seventies trudging across the tundra, block after block, in -20 degree temperatures in February with more than 2 feet of snow (some of it yellow) when they were 12 years old for $80 a month!

 

[barfle]

Well USPS has a contract with Amazon so I don't know how all that plays out?

If USPS is delivering it, it’s postal mail. But an Amazon, UPS, DHL, etc. driver is prohibited from using it.

 

[mandrix]

If USPS is delivering it, it’s postal mail. But an Amazon, UPS, DHL, etc. driver is prohibited from using it.

I don't know one from the other. We don't get any vehicles labeled as being "Amazon" and the mail delivery people either rotate constantly or come and go.

One clue though: I have a No Trespassing sign up at my (always open) gate, but I had to add a sign saying "Deliveries welcome at side door" because stuff was being dumped on the ground just inside the gate. Real postal workers, UPS, Fed-Ex ignore "No Trespassing" signs because they know people want their mail and "stuff".

 

[mandrix]

The postal carriers have started leaving letters, etc in the mailbox and bringing packages to the house. Used to be they brought everything.
I asked a carrier why and he said people complain about letters disappearing/blowing away/whatever.
I just said well why not put the letters under the package? But I understood what the reasoning is. Could be because of complaints or just a CYA thing, but I understood.

 

[barfle]

I don't know one from the other. We don't get any vehicles labeled as being "Amazon" and the mail delivery people either rotate constantly or come and go.

One clue though: I have a No Trespassing sign up at my (always open) gate, but I had to add a sign saying "Deliveries welcome at side door" because stuff was being dumped on the ground just inside the gate. Real postal workers, UPS, Fed-Ex ignore "No Trespassing" signs because they know people want their mail and "stuff".

I get several marked delivery vans in my area. Not every day like the USPS, but often. Sometimes Amazon has unmarked vehicles, but they usually have the logo on the truck. Perhaps because your house is away from the road you don't get to see them. Hard for me to say with any certainty.

 

[mandrix]

I get several marked delivery vans in my area. Not every day like the USPS, but often. Sometimes Amazon has unmarked vehicles, but they usually have the logo on the truck. Perhaps because your house is away from the road you don't get to see them. Hard for me to say with any certainty.

Could be, but I've never actually seen any vehicle with Amazon on it in the area. Plus if they come down here they always turn around in the yard. I just don't hear them I guess unless the dog does and starts barking. Stealthy, these people. LOL.

 

[barfle]

@mandrix, a UPS truck just dropped off my Amazon order of "Pyramid." On the porch.

Go figure.

 

[Jim.olga]

@mandrix, a UPS truck just dropped off my Amazon order of "Pyramid." On the porch.

Go figure.

There's still hope!

 

[fizzywiggs41]

As far as I know, it’s illegal for anything but Postal mail to be put in a postal mail box. I haven’t checked regulations recently, but I know that used to be the case.

As @mandrix stated Amazon does have a deal to contract out delivery with Canada Post .
I have had both instances where envelopes from a carrier will use my mailbox and also leave a parcel or envelope between doors , (and outside the building) so it's hard to say they would be banished from using a mailbox . When you think about it I own the rights to that mail box , and will accept anything including junk mail, of which I must toss out once a week.

@mandrix , interesting note that you noticed people on the cell , when
delivering , something......I will take a cab seldom but what I've noticed is they are constantly on the phone , so you occasionally have to ask are you talking to me or asking me something ? I just ignore it now.

Changing gears slightly,
But the real audiophile like us , might agree, that some people ,if you've ever heard this , ...will have their music in WOW... extra loud bass high , as the vehicle in traffic is rattling windows . Those young bass lover drivers , pay the price , when they find out how easy it is to lose some hearing in a relatively short time.

I'm just getting older and nit picky , now more than ever.

 

[fizzywiggs41]

I get several marked delivery vans in my area. Not every day like the USPS, but often. Sometimes Amazon has unmarked vehicles, but they usually have the logo on the truck. Perhaps because your house is away from the road you don't get to see them. Hard for me to say with any certainty.

In many ways I feel sorry for Amazon drivers who are considered non employees, because they are contract drivers , and paid lousy wages
by Bezo$. If ever exploitation existed , it starts with him.

 

[Perp]

In many ways I feel sorry for Amazon drivers who are considered non employees, because they are contract drivers , and paid lousy wages
by Bezo$. If ever exploitation existed , it starts with him.

I know someone that gets paid over $23.00 to be an Amazon delivery person. Plus, I just did a search and it states they start close to $20.00. I don’t consider that to be a lousy wage for the job they do.

 

[mandrix]

As @mandrix stated Amazon does have a deal to contract out delivery with Canada Post .
I have had both instances where envelopes from a carrier will use my mailbox and also leave a parcel or envelope between doors , (and outside the building) so it's hard to say they would be banished from using a mailbox . When you think about it I own the rights to that mail box , and will accept anything including junk mail, of which I must toss out once a week.

@mandrix , interesting note that you noticed people on the cell , when
delivering , something......I will take a cab seldom but what I've noticed is they are constantly on the phone , so you occasionally have to ask are you talking to me or asking me something ? I just ignore it now.

Changing gears slightly,
But the real audiophile like us , might agree, that some people ,if you've ever heard this , ...will have their music in WOW... extra loud bass high , as the vehicle in traffic is rattling windows . Those young bass lover drivers , pay the price , when they find out how easy it is to lose some hearing in a relatively short time.

I'm just getting older and nit picky , now more than ever.

Many years ago, when I was younger, in my late 40's/ early 50's I guess, I had an early team meeting at work and relayed my experience about someone rolling up behind us at a fast food drive through. The music, especially the bass, from the car behind us was so loud we could not hear the person taking our order.
At the drive through window talking face to face my wife finally got our order across, and I ordered a very large iced tea for myself. I was trying to signal the young male "adults" behind us to turn it down. They ignored us.
When I got my large iced tea, I got out and threw it against the windshield of the offenders. Then stood and waited. Nothing. Not one of my finer days, admitted.

Upon relating this, this one young man in the team meeting was shaking his head, and told me that would never fly with him.
I just said "try me kid".

I guess society has been going down for years: IDK. Sad.

 

[barfle]

I imagine most of our mailboxes are items we consider to be our personal,property, apartments notwithstanding. I have very little knowledge of non-US regulations, so whether or not Canadian or Slovenian delivery people can use someone’s mailboxes for stuff that fits is outside my wheelhouse. Not that US postal regulations are inside it. But I recall hearing from someone who should know that the only people who are allowed to put items in a person’s mailbox are the letter carier Nd the owner of the box (usually outgoing mail). I have, on occasion, put misdelivered mail in my neighbor’s box and gotten away with it. I doubt that such actions would be enforced, but if a business like Amazon tried it as a policy, they would probably be notified in a strongly worded notice.

My neighbors have a box behind a column that shields porch deliveries. Not a bad idea, but it probably wouldn’t work on my porch. I have an area that is not visible from the street, but maybe one in twenty deliveries get left there.

 

[Bruce00]

I actually have good UPS service here. Fed-Ex...well, never know. Bought my last AVR, dude rolled up over my lawn and made a big show out of lifting it out. I picked it up with one hand and carried it up the steps. lol. Guy had to be a third of my age.
And always talking on those damn phones. Never understood why someone has to be constantly chattering about nothing all the time.

I've had that "undeliverable" crap with USPS. They just don't want to drive down the driveway in my scary dark woods I guess.
The USPS must be recycling employees like toilet paper. Over the years I usually had one person for years delivering everything. Now I don't know any of them, and "informed delivery" often says by 9 PM! I mean WTF.

This one USPS delivery gal used to roll up with her jams going so loud I could hear them in the house. Like who cares, you know? Same one told me "honey, you wouldn't want my job". sheeeit. Most of these people I think have no work ethic. I was out the house and making a living at 16 and at 19 in the Army, and they're whining about driving around all day making deliveries? Gimme a break, please.

Seems endemic these days. In fact I don't think many have any sort of ethics, let alone a work ethic.

Sounds like my house. I could never understand yapping on the phone all day. 23 yrs in my house, Kenny was my postman, and had my mail by 10am.
Now it's a revolving circus, dare I say DEI hires? Now I consider it a positive if my mail is delivered by 5.
I'll also add, NEVER got a letter or package that was addressed to someone else in the 17yrs with Kenny. Now atleast 1 aweek, addressed to someone else.....Could it be from not paying attention? IDK, but I know talking on the phone can't be helping.

MY UPS guy is on the money, those other guys, not so much