HiRez Poll Queen - NIGHT AT THE OPERA [DVD-A/BluRay Audio]

[SeeMoreDigital]

If y'all wanna see clipped audio, there's a hidden stereo stream on both DVD-A versions that oddly contains part of, but not the entire Night at the Opera album. Clipped to hell, I believe.

Really!!!

Is this a lossy or lossless 2-channel audio stream. Where is it hidden within the folder structure?

 

[Dynamic Editor]

Really!!!

Is this a lossy or lossless 2-channel audio stream. Where is it hidden within the folder structure?

I think it's lossless, and I found it when ripping with DVD Audio Extractor. Maybe I can share it a bit later today!

 

[ssully]

The lossless stereo mix is the smashed one on the 2002 DVDA. Noticed it back in 2008 and posted about it on Hydrogenaudio and here. (Unfortunately the screencaps didn't survive the extinction of various image hosting services.)

I've only done stereo DVD-A rip-->FLAC-->playback, is there a primer anywhere for ripping, storing (FLAC) and playing back multichannel tracks with foobar2k?

Btw, it's kind of sad how many DVD-A (checking stereo only so far) are turning out to be 'loudness wars' victims. Queen's 'Night at the Opera' looks better on the recent anniversary CD, than on the DVD-A from 2002. The recent Talking Heads dualdiscs are also quite dynamically limited as is Yes 'Fragile' and the Who's 'Tommy'. DVD-A tracks from Billy Cobham, Neil Young, and Deep Purple, however, display 'natural' , expansive waveforms. I can post screencaps if anyone's interested.

Curiosities: The Queen ANatO stereo tracks are stored on the DVD-A as one gigantic LPCM file. Interesting 'authoring' there. The Talking Heads 'Speaking in Tongues' Dualdisc has the L/R channels reversed in the DVD-A stereo version compared to the CD track.

NB again that the ANATO 5.1 mix on the same DVDA is NOT loudness-war compressed. Just the original stereo mix mastering.

 

[Owen Smith]

The lossless stereo mix is the smashed one on the 2002 DVDA. Noticed it back in 2008 and posted about it on Hydrogenaudio and here. (Unfortunately the screencaps didn't survive the extinction of various image hosting services.)



NB again that the ANATO 5.1 mix on the DVDA is NOT loudness-war compressed. Just the original stereo mix mastering.

Yes I remember that. The HFPA blu ray is exactly the opposite!

 

[madship]

The DVDA was one of the first multichannel discs I bought back when Best Buy had a section for them.

It was disc 1 or 2, most likely from Best Buy, along with Brain Salad Surgery, unfortunately I don't have the receipt to see which was scanned first. These were purchased after setting up my first 5.1 system (2001 or 2002) and before I could play MLP. They put me on a path I've never looked back from.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

There is a slight error on the song "You're My Best Friend" for the DVD-A release (not sure if it's an issue on the blu-ray, too). The center channel of the mix is in the wrong polarity. The reason I say it's a slight error is because the center channel is mixed pretty quietly, so I am unsure how big a difference inverting the polarity would make to the track.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

I think it's lossless, and I found it when ripping with DVD Audio Extractor. Maybe I can share it a bit later today!

Here is that stereo mix on the DVD-A. It's one track, 31 minutes (ending partway through "Love of My Life"), and has a dynamic range of 5.5.

 

[ssully]

In terms of DR, I don't think the complete stereo version on the DVD-A is any different. It's very compressed, while the 5.1 mix is not.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

In terms of DR, I don't think the complete stereo version on the DVD-A is any different. It's very compressed, while the 5.1 mix is not.

I don't think there is a complete stereo version on the DVD-A, as per what I noted.

 

[ssully]

The complete 96/24 LPCM original stereo mix (complete with smashed DR too) is in the VIDEO_TS folder.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

The complete 96/24 LPCM original stereo mix is in the VIDEO_TS folder.

Ah. Alright!

 

[Owen Smith]

The complete 96/24 LPCM original stereo mix (complete with smashed DR too) is in the VIDEO_TS folder.

If you want the stereo mix look at the HFPA blu ray. Awful brick walled 5.1 but a great stereo transfer, complete opposite of the DVD-A/V.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

If you want the stereo mix look at the HFPA blu ray. Awful brick walled 5.1 but a great stereo transfer, complete opposite of the DVD-A/V.

I forget. Does that version have an actual 5.1 version of "God Save the Queen"? I believe they didn't have the multitracks for the initial 2003 mix, if I remember correctly.

 

[Owen Smith]

I forget. Does that version have an actual 5.1 version of "God Save the Queen"? I believe they didn't have the multitracks for the initial 2003 mix, if I remember correctly.

The DVD-V and Blu Ray both have brick walled 5.1 mixes, but both also have a true 5.1 remix of God Save The Queen. As you rightly say the DVD-A/V had an upmix as they could not find the multi tracks.

 

[humprof]

Don Breithaupt of the band Monkey House was commissioned to write the essay for "Bohemian Rhapsody" when it was added to the Library of Congress's National Registry of Sound Recordings.
https://www.loc.gov/static/programs...rd/documents/Bohemian-Rhapsody_Breithaupt.pdf

 

[gorman]

The original 2001 version never made it past promotional copies with DTS Entertainments, and was indeed pulled & altered by Elliot at Brian's request.

Help me understand... this disc was my first multichannel disc ever.

I bought in the USA. 1. it's been printed by PDSC CA. 2. It does not have the "Co-Produced By Brian May for Queen" line in the credits.
Source 1 - Source 2

All copyrights indicate 2001, there's no 2002 anywhere on the jewelcase, the booklet, the disc.

On the other hand, my Mould SID Code is IFPI V9J3 which is nowhere to be found on Discogs.

Is there a surefire way of telling which edition I have by listening to the music? Or any other way?
Thanks in advance but I've just discovered that two different mixes existed...

 

[edisonbaggins]

Help me understand... this disc was my first multichannel disc ever.

I bought in the USA. 1. it's been printed by PDSC CA. 2. It does not have the "Co-Produced By Brian May for Queen" line in the credits.
Source 1 - Source 2

All copyrights indicate 2001, there's no 2002 anywhere on the jewelcase, the booklet, the disc.

On the other hand, my Mould SID Code is IFPI V9J3 which is nowhere to be found on Discogs.

Is there a surefire way of telling which edition I have by listening to the music? Or any other way?
Thanks in advance but I've just discovered that two different mixes existed...

One giveaway is curving credits text on the disc itself (2001).
The 2002 credits are straight text.

 

[sjcorne]

Is there a surefire way of telling which edition I have by listening to the music?

When Freddie sings “was the fin on your back part of the deal…shark!” in the first track, the “shark!” line comes from the front speakers in the first 5.1 mix and the rears in the second one.

Also in “Bohemian Rhapsody,” the piano that starts off the operatic section is entirely in the rears in the first mix (you won’t hear it at all if you mute the back channels). In the second mix, the piano still favors the rears but you can also hear it in the front.