Ricky's Audio Video Barn Build Project

[Sonik Wiz]

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That is quite the sandbox to play in!

 

[Owen Smith]

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What purpose does all this sand serve? In the UK houses are built very differently.

 

[esimms86]

That is quite the sandbox to play in!

Ricky, you should invite Brian Wilson over!

 

[cbmmm3]

I should !! He could help compact all this sand with his good vibrations

 

[LuvMyQuad]

What purpose does all this sand serve? In the UK houses are built very differently.

It's just used as fill. Something to pour the concrete pad on. I haven't seen anyone use sand before though. I've seen crushed concrete and/or stone. It all has to be compacted to firm it up. Ricky, was sand used because it's cheaper and there is so much needed? Is it superior? Couldn't you just have left it as a crawlspace and laid joists across the foundation walls, like a basement kinda?

 

[cbmmm3]

It's just used as fill. Something to pour the concrete pad on. I haven't seen anyone use sand before though. I've seen crushed concrete and/or stone. It all has to be compacted to firm it up. Ricky, was sand used because it's cheaper and there is so much needed? Is it superior? Couldn't you just have left it as a crawlspace and laid joists across the foundation walls, like a basement kinda?

LMQ
Indeed - sand as fill compacts the best. And has price advantage over crushed concrete and gravel - especially since I am filling cavities upwards of 48 inches in height. That last 2-3 inches will have a gravel base.
As far as having a crawlspace via raised floorjoists --a couple of comments: 1. half of this barn is actual garage ( for cars and tractors and such ) so that area could not be framed. Hence cement floor. 2. In Michigan - crawlspace poses problems for cold and humidity. The cost to meet energy code far exceeds the cost of fill and cement. Ricky dont like crawlspaces

 

[DuncanS]

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Thats some sub-woofer they're building!

 

[LuvMyQuad]

LMQ
Indeed - sand as fill compacts the best. And has price advantage over crushed concrete and gravel - especially since I am filling cavities upwards of 48 inches in height. That last 2-3 inches will have a gravel base.
As far as having a crawlspace via raised floorjoists --a couple of comments: 1. half of this barn is actual garage ( for cars and tractors and such ) so that area could not be framed. Hence cement floor. 2. In Michigan - crawlspace poses problems for cold and humidity. The cost to meet energy code far exceeds the cost of fill and cement. Ricky dont like crawlspaces

Cement is best for placing subs on as well IMO

 

[barfle]

LMQ
Indeed - sand as fill compacts the best. And has price advantage over crushed concrete and gravel - especially since I am filling cavities upwards of 48 inches in height. That last 2-3 inches will have a gravel base.
As far as having a crawlspace via raised floorjoists --a couple of comments: 1. half of this barn is actual garage ( for cars and tractors and such ) so that area could not be framed. Hence cement floor. 2. In Michigan - crawlspace poses problems for cold and humidity. The cost to meet energy code far exceeds the cost of fill and cement. Ricky dont like crawlspaces

The house I’m in now is the first one I’ve owned with a crawlspace under the house. It’s not my favorite place to be, either, but it made several wiring jobs possible. There are SIX attic crawlspaces, including the three around and over my listening room.

 

[Owen Smith]

The house I’m in now is the first one I’ve owned with a crawlspace under the house. It’s not my favorite place to be, either, but it made several wiring jobs possible. There are SIX attic crawlspaces, including the three around and over my listening room.

My parents house has under floor and attic crawlspaces, and that allowed me to install a load of CAT 6 network cabling and completely rewire the mains electrics. My dad used them to install under floor heating downstairs and then I insulated below that, this in a house built in 1960.

By contrast my house was built in 1987 and has concrete floors downstairs. I can't do a damned thing, and the concrete floor is uninsulated (standard when it was built) hence I get cold feet in winter. I'll take the crawlspaces any day.

 

[mandrix]

My parents house has under floor and attic crawlspaces, and that allowed me to install a load of CAT 6 network cabling and completely rewire the mains electrics. My dad used them to install under floor heating downstairs and then I insulated below that, this in a house built in 1960.

By contrast my house was built in 1987 and has concrete floors downstairs. I can't do a damned thing, and the concrete floor is uninsulated (standard when it was built) hence I get cold feet in winter. I'll take the crawlspaces any day.

Install flooring with underneath heating? It's done here in the States. Not necessary where I live though.
Which reminds, I have some new CAT cable to run under the house. Nothing like a good low crawl in the dirt to spice up your day.

 

[Owen Smith]

Install flooring with underneath heating? It's done here in the States. Not necessary where I live though.

I only have 7'8" from concrete to ceiling downstairs, I really can't tolerate the loss of headroom that would be involved with heated flooring on top of the concrete. I have looked into it: electric heating would fit height wise but cost a fortune to run; circulating hot water wouldn't fit height wise.

 

[4-earredwonder]

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Geez, Ricko, you'd a thunk Lawrence of Arabia had moved to Michigan!

Could Ricko & family be the next

 

[cbmmm3]

a hint............................

 

[4-earredwonder]

a hint............................

Has Ricko taken on an Albino mistress???????????

 

[esimms86]

Has Ricko taken on an Albino mistress???????????

It's always Winter in Michigan.

 

[4-earredwonder]

It's always Winter in Michigan.

Or, Mr. E .....IT'S THE

 

[cbmmm3]

...........keep trying.......................

 

[esimms86]

 

[4-earredwonder]

...........keep trying.......................

Ricko has run outta money and is building his barn out of WHITE FOAM?