I completely agree other than I don’t have The Doors. Which 1 you’re talking about….not sure
I second that , which set we talking about Perps ? My wallet wants to know ? ( or maybe it doesnt !! ) Perception box ?
Sept 4, 2020 - Official release date for Doobie Brothers Quadio at $59.98 List
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I second that , which set we talking about Perps ? My wallet wants to know ? ( or maybe it doesnt !! ) Perception box ?
In the tapeheads.net (sadly gone) forum, it was mentioned that playback of analog magnetic tape recordings need about a 2dB maximum smooth treble boost to restore their fidelity and to make Dolby A NR tracking work properly, I'm fine with that since it's a restoration technique which doesn't cross over to enhancement.
On the harshness issue, maybe the Captain and Me quad mix was near the audible harshness tipping point (they wouldn't know about such things ~50 years ago) and boosting the treble for the BR mix pushed it over the tipping point into audibility.
I've read some about LP mastering, basically trying to fix the mix w/EQ and other signal processing between the master tape playback and the LP mastering system (CD-4 mastering put an end to that, listening to the sum/baseband signal only at 1/2 speed made it impossible to fiddle with the quad mix).
(it seems simpler to make the master tape sound exactly the way the artists/producers want and then try to transfer that fidelity to an LP unaltered)
Kirk Bayne
On the harshness issue, maybe the Captain and Me quad mix was near the audible harshness tipping point (they wouldn't know about such things ~50 years ago) and boosting the treble for the BR mix pushed it over the tipping point into audibility.
I've read some about LP mastering, basically trying to fix the mix w/EQ and other signal processing between the master tape playback and the LP mastering system (CD-4 mastering put an end to that, listening to the sum/baseband signal only at 1/2 speed made it impossible to fiddle with the quad mix).
(it seems simpler to make the master tape sound exactly the way the artists/producers want and then try to transfer that fidelity to an LP unaltered)
Kirk Bayne
That would be ideal but how to you determine what is flat? The audio could have been manipulated in so many ways. For playback I prefer simple shelving type bass and treble controls. My homebuilt unit has selectable turnover frequencies as well. Use of a multiband equaliser might be OK to flatten room response if you are set up to calibrate it properly. For tweaking a recording I think that you could do far more harm than good! In software there are so many options, so many ways to go horribly wrong!
I'm horrified by the pre-set equalisation settings on the deck in my truck. There is no rhyme or reason to the pre-set settings, often alternate frequency bands boosted and cut! I'm reminded of my friend and his graphic equaliser which he tweaks by ear for almost every recording, often with wildly differing settings from channel to channel!
If I ever determine optimal equalisation settings I will be sure to share them. I would favour simple bass and treble cut or boost, something that won't muck up the sound too much!
£36.69 on amazon in the UK including p & p, grab it quick if you don’t have it
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It's now £76.54 ....must have been one of those Amazon Flash deals!
Still showing huge discount when I select the link....Ralphie
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That's REALLY weird Mike ... just clicked onto YOUR link again and it shows £76.54 ...could it be for UK customers, ONLY? Quite strange! Even the NEW and USED links for £36 and up don't appear in the side box ......... Hmmmm.
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Even if you have a British accent, Ricky?
Looks like the link no longer works but if you search quadio box it’s still there
I already have the Quadio set, I paid £64.99+£9 P&P direct from Rhino! The link did work (I typed with a British accent 
I've lost my Scottish one) and showed £35.43! Quadio Box: Amazon.co.uk: CDs & Vinyl
I've lost my Scottish one) and showed £35.43! Quadio Box: Amazon.co.uk: CDs & Vinyl
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I already have the Quadio set, I paid £64.99+£9 P&P direct from Rhino! The link did work (I typed with a British accent
Great SCOT[T], Dunc, YOUR link takes me to AmazonUS where the Doobies Quadio boxset is priced at $77US. As a Yank who watches BBC's THE CROWN religiously, I protest the UK link doesn't work ... for me!
BTW, I also purchased the Doobies Quadio boxset from Rhino direct for $64 delivered...and STILL available via their website albeit for $60
https://store.rhino.com/the-doobie-brothers-quadio-boxed-set.html
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WHY?
That link takes you to a for sale listing but that is the early 2000's 5.1 remix. Not the "Quadio" set that we are talking about here.
"The Doobie Brothers-The Captain And Me Dvd-Audio $30"
Looking back at the poll comments people seemed to really like it. For myself give me the original quads anyday! Most of those 5.1 remixes did not impress me.
The 5.1 mix of The Captain & Me was created by Elliot Scheiner and is a significant upgrade over the quad, sonics & mix-wise, for my tastes. $30 for that DVD-A is a steal.
