HiRez Poll Soundgarden - SUPERUNKNOWN [Blu-Ray]

[JonUrban]

Please post your thoughts and comments on the 5.1 BluRay disc that is included in the Deluxe Box Set edition of the Soundgarden album, Superunknown.

As of this posting, this disc is only available in the box set.

 

[keenly]

Horrible, horrible, horrible! The worst Blu Ray I have ever heard. NO dynamic range. RUINED by STEPEHEN MARCUSSEN during mastering. 5.1 tame but I wouldn't mind them to be honest. As soon as I read the credits, I knew it would be too loud but this is shocking.

5.1 mixes 6/10
mastering -10/10

 

[perzon57]

Well
I love this BluRay and I give it a 9.I don't care who mastered it or who pissed against the wind on the wrong day.On heavy
rotation in my music room.Must be my modest setup and old ears.@:

 

[bmoura]

I don't care who mastered it or who pissed against the wind on the wrong day.

I've seen mastering credits on a disc, but not the additional info you're mentioning....

 

[perzon57]

Well
I think there's a lot of members on this forum that don't care about music,just measuring.....

 

[milt]

I think a lot of potential buyers or people who pre-ordered and cancelled, like me, have for better or worse cancelled their orders based on trusted reviews from people who got them.
A real shame because the music is great but the cost of the set just to get the BD was kind of steep.
If the reviews had even been 50-50 I would have stuck with it.
I'm not someone who judges recordings by a single number but a DR of 6 is pathetic by any yard stick.

 

[wavelength]

Well
I think there's a lot of members on this forum that don't care about music,just measuring.....

I think it's great that you are enjoying this album. I was looking for that "buzz" that a hot new release creates but there wasn't any. Your comments are the only ones I've seen to sing praises for Superunknown. I'm sure we were all hoping for something fantastic but instead it's another "what could have been."

 

[keenly]

Well
I love this BluRay and I give it a 9.I don't care who mastered it or who pissed against the wind on the wrong day.On heavy
rotation in my music room.Must be my modest setup and old ears.@:

You love it? WOW.

 

[keenly]

Well
I think there's a lot of members on this forum that don't care about music,just measuring.....

You do not understand; the music is damn good but can't be enjoyed because the sound is atrocious. That is the point. If we accept any crap given to us it will continue to happen.

 

[rusinurbe]

Well
I think there's a lot of members on this forum that don't care about music,just measuring.....

No I care just dont care for huge box sets with built in redundancy and cost.

was waiting for teh reviews to come in to maybe justify the cost, alas so far no justification to invest in a box just ebcause I want the Blu ray, looking on this as money banked for the next King Crimson release

 

[The Bright Side]

You do not understand; the music is damn good but can't be enjoyed because the sound is atrocious. That is the point. If we accept any crap given to us it will continue to happen.

It will continue to happen :-/

 

[Bill Houston]

So disappointed to hear about the over compression and tepid 5.1 mix (Not to mention the price). Soundgarden is turning into one of the most egregious offenders as far as cashing in on their "legacy". I was really looking forward to this release Unless this is released as a stand alone, I'll pass. Looks like I'll pick up the new edition of Quadrophenia instead.

 

[zabble]

I gave the 5.1 mix of this a casual listen on Sunday with an out-of-town house guest. I occasionally walked into the sweet spot to check the mix.

My first impressions are that the dynamics sound like my original CD version. Yes there is compression, but, in my opinion, no more than the original stereo cd has. I was quite relieved, especially after some of the previous comments.

The mix isn't exactly jaw-dropping, but it certainly isn't atrocious. I've heard alot of bad 5.1 mixes, and this definitely doesn't rank with the worst. My experience was enjoyable. I will listen again more intently when I get the opportunity.

 

[fredblue]

I'll be giving the 5.1 a first listen this evening

 

[Perp]

This is the HDTracks 2-channel version. Not sure how it compares to the BD.

Analyzed: Soundgarden / Superunknown (Deluxe Edition)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR6 -0.17 dB -7.78 dB 4:11 17-Let Me Drown (Demo Version)
DR5 -1.32 dB -8.26 dB 5:39 18-Black Hole Sun (Demo Version)
DR8 -3.52 dB -13.59 dB 1:38 19-Half (Demo Version)
DR8 0.00 dB -9.39 dB 5:27 20-Head Down (Rehearsal Version)
DR7 0.00 dB -8.25 dB 5:43 21-Limo Wreck (Rehearsal Version)
DR8 0.00 dB -9.94 dB 6:03 22-The Day I Tried To Live (Rehearsal Version)
DR12 0.00 dB -15.13 dB 6:13 23-Like Suicide (Acoustic Version)
DR5 -0.06 dB -6.30 dB 4:03 24-Black Days III
DR7 0.00 dB -8.03 dB 5:51 25-Birth Ritual (Original Demo Version)
DR6 0.00 dB -7.23 dB 1:22 26-Exit Stonehenge
DR6 -0.12 dB -6.90 dB 4:07 27-Kyle Petty, Son Of Richard
DR7 -0.18 dB -9.92 dB 3:25 28-Jerry Garcia's Finger
DR7 -0.14 dB -8.43 dB 5:21 29-Spoonman (Alternate Steve Fisk Remix)
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Number of tracks: 13
Official DR value: DR7

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 981 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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Analyzed: Soundgarden / Superunknown (Deluxe Edition)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR5 0.00 dB -6.47 dB 3:53 01-Let Me Drown
DR6 0.00 dB -7.71 dB 5:13 02-My Wave
DR7 0.00 dB -8.04 dB 4:43 03-Fell On Black Days
DR6 0.00 dB -6.47 dB 4:26 04-Mailman
DR6 0.00 dB -6.63 dB 5:07 05-Superunknown
DR6 0.00 dB -7.79 dB 6:10 06-Head Down
DR6 0.00 dB -8.25 dB 5:19 07-Black Hole Sun
DR6 0.00 dB -6.70 dB 4:07 08-Spoonman
DR6 0.00 dB -7.25 dB 5:48 09-Limo Wreck
DR7 -0.01 dB -8.27 dB 5:20 10-The Day I Tried To Live
DR6 0.00 dB -6.92 dB 1:34 11-Kickstand
DR7 0.00 dB -7.90 dB 4:17 12-Fresh Tendrils
DR6 -0.01 dB -7.13 dB 5:09 13-4th Of July
DR8 0.00 dB -10.45 dB 2:15 14-Half
DR6 0.00 dB -7.90 dB 7:04 15-Like Suicide
DR6 -0.19 dB -7.69 dB 3:18 16-She Likes Surprises
DR6 -0.48 dB -8.16 dB 5:27 30-The Day I Tried To Live (Alternate Mix)
DR6 -0.20 dB -8.29 dB 5:13 31-4th Of July (Instrumental)
DR6 -0.19 dB -7.69 dB 5:09 32-Superunknown (Instrumental)
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Number of tracks: 19
Official DR value: DR6

Samplerate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 3480 kbps
Codec: FLAC

 

[IMachine]

It was too late to cancel my order and I decided I will give it a try.
My copy arrived today.
Sometimes it isn't as bad as I heard about something.
I will report in the evening.

 

[milt]

This is the HDTracks 2-channel version. Not sure how it compares to the BD.

Identical

 

[IMachine]

Uffff....
What to say.....
Yes, the mastering is bad. There are holes in the sound I never heard before...and I know the recording very well.
The 5.1 mix is boring.
The sound is cold.

Yes there are worse 5.1 mixes, but it is not good....and really not worth the price.

A 5!

 

[LizardKing]

DR for the 5.1:
foobar2000 1.3.1 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2014-06-18 18:51:54


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Analyzed: Soundgarden / Superunknown
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR9 -0.10 dB -11.66 dB 3:55 01-Let Me Drown
DR10 -0.10 dB -12.67 dB 5:12 02-My Wave
DR10 -0.10 dB -11.08 dB 4:43 03-Fell On Black Days
DR11 -0.10 dB -11.76 dB 4:26 04-Mailman
DR8 -0.10 dB -10.48 dB 5:07 05-Superunknown
DR8 -0.10 dB -11.29 dB 6:09 06-Head Down
DR9 -0.10 dB -11.41 dB 5:19 07-Black Hole Sun
DR10 -0.10 dB -12.15 dB 4:08 08-Spoonman
DR9 -0.10 dB -10.47 dB 5:48 09-Limo Wreck
DR10 -0.10 dB -11.98 dB 5:20 10-The Day I Tried To Live
DR10 -0.10 dB -11.36 dB 1:34 11-Kickstand
DR10 -0.10 dB -12.09 dB 4:17 12-Fresh Tendrils
DR10 -0.10 dB -12.42 dB 5:09 13-4th Of July
DR12 -0.35 dB -16.12 dB 2:14 14-Half
DR9 -0.10 dB -12.79 dB 7:04 15-Like Suicide
DR10 -0.10 dB -12.42 dB 3:18 16-She Likes Surprises
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Number of tracks: 16
Official DR value: DR10


Samplerate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 6
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 8658 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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[LizardKing]

Here's the waveforms of Black Hole Sun:


Not as bad as I was expecting.....