Ten Years After "A Space In Time" (limited-run SDE Blu-Ray with Dolby Atmos, 5.1, and Quad shipping 3/17)

[Sal1950]

Isn't Stephen Taylor nearing the summit on Rushmore?

Did you mean Steven Wilson ?

 

[fredblue]

Thanks dont know that one at all but I'll keep it in mind
This new Atmos fad is starting to remind me of the old Silverline production model.....

i was worried things might be heading that way when all the Schmatmos concoctions of tracks that should've been remixes from multitracks rather than fudges from Stereo started appearing but there's been tons of genuine Atmos mixes streaming that are leaps and bounds better than the majority of Silverline faux-point-1 dreck imho

edit: also fwiw (and not wanting to tempt fate! ) it seems like there's almost no new Schmatmos stuff on Apple lately?

 

[fredblue]

Did you mean Steven Wilson ?

i think they mean the gentleman who does all the Be Bop Deluxe, Van Der Graaf Generator., etc.. new mixes and 5.1's?

 

[Sal1950]

i think they mean the gentleman who does all the Be Bop Deluxe, Van Der Graaf Generator., etc.. new mixes and 5.1's?

OK, thanks, I'm not familiar with the name.

 

[Cheezmo]

i was worried things might be heading that way when all the Schmatmos concoctions of tracks that should've been remixes from multitracks rather than fudges from Stereo started appearing but there's been tons of genuine Atmos mixes streaming that are leaps and bounds better than the majority of Silverline faux-point-1 dreck imho

edit: also fwiw (and not wanting to tempt fate! ) it seems like there's almost no new Schmatmos stuff on Apple lately?

Not only that, a lot of it was pulled. So there appears to be some effort to enforce Apple's no upmix policy.

 

[fredblue]

Bruce Soord

Soord, SW, Ryan Ulyate, and Greg Penny are probably my Mount Rushmore of Atmos mixers.

i honestly think the way they are handling the EJ Atmos mixes right now don't entirely do Greg Penny justice.. there's so much beautiful Atmos activity going on (especially in the creative use of the Sides, Rears and Heights) on some of those tracks they deserve better than the bandwidth limited streaming offering they only have to date and should see some sort of physical release also.. let's hope for a good outcome someday before we're all dead/deaf!

 

[fredblue]

OK, thanks, I'm not familiar with the name.

anytime! i enjoyed some of those mixes, i just get so lazy to drag out the box sets everytime to spin the DVDs and haven't got round to ripping any of them.. yet!

 

[fredblue]

Not only that, a lot of it was pulled. So there appears to be some effort to enforce Apple's no upmix policy.

yes it's a very encouraging development if they could offer the option of higher bitrate Atmos (or even in one's wildest dreams, Lossless Atmos maybe!?) streaming to those with good enough connections and maybe for select albums (at the risk of sounding like a sonic snob, a kind of "Premium Spatial Audio" offering, almost?) that'd be the icing on an already tasty cake

 

[Sal1950]

anytime! i enjoyed some of those mixes, i just get so lazy to drag out the box sets everytime to spin the DVDs and haven't got round to ripping any of them.. yet!

I try not to fall behind anymore.
Many if not most times I'll rip a new disc before I've ever listened to it and then only hear my computers rip.

 

[fredblue]

I try not to fall behind anymore.
Many if not most times I'll rip a new disc before I've ever listened to it and then only hear my computers rip.

that makes a lot of sense! i shall verily extract my digit and emulate your behaviour!
wow i need a drink, it's been a long week

 

[Sal1950]

yes it's a very encouraging development if they could offer the option of higher bitrate Atmos (or even in one's wildest dreams, Lossless Atmos maybe!?) streaming to those with good enough connections and maybe for select albums (at the risk of sounding like a sonic snob, a kind of "Premium Spatial Audio" offering, almost?) that'd be the icing on an already tasty cake

I agree but the fact that it encourages people to actually lay down the cash for a hard disc or bit-perfect download isn't a completely bad thing.

 

[HomerJAU]

Kurt Martinez who is Head Dolby Engineer at Dean Street Studios in Soho, London; was responsible for the ATMOS mix, and used new plug-ins to emulate the original desk to achieve the new mix.

If I’d known that I wouldn’t have ordered this release. And now we can hear this release, ditto. I was only interested in the Atmos mix and it’s a dud.

That’s the problem with these limited SDE releases, wait until reviews to decide on purchase means you can’t order it.

 

[sjcorne]

What’s wrong with using saturation plugins to emulate the sound of tape and/or the original mixing console used? I’d imagine that just about anyone in the business of remixing classic albums is doing this.

 

[kap'n krunch]

Then you are doing it wrong.

this is a VIrgo's motto..
"you are doing it wrong!"
(sez a Leo)

 

[rtbluray]

What’s wrong with using saturation plugins to emulate the sound of tape and/or the original mixing console used? I’d imagine that just about anyone in the business of remixing classic albums is doing this.

Steven Wilson chief among them

 

[The56Kid]

Probably - much like how Michael Brauer gets the credit for Bob Dylan's Time Out Of Mind Atmos mix, but the finer print makes it sound like Fernando Reyes did the bulk of the work.

Regardless of whose work it is, this TYA Atmos mix isn't anything to write home about (at least in my opinion). It's a little cleaner-sounding and less hissy than the quad, but the dynamics seem kinda toned down and the surround effect is much more conservative. For instance I miss all the crazy backwards tape and sitar-like effects throughout "Let The Sky Fall" that were prominent in the quad, they're like ghosts in the mix on the Atmos (maybe that's truer to the stereo version?).

Grrrrrrrr!

 

[quicksrt]

$80 to $122 going prices and the darn things are barely out of the shipping mailers. Just goes to show....

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/26450465

 

[ss9001]

Just goes to show....

...that there are assholes everywhere?

 

[DAVE1971]

On the Atmos / 5.1 mix, does everyone’s disc start off with the vocals in just the left speaker? I’m guessing it’s a stylistic choice.

 

[Sal1950]

$80 to $122 going prices and the darn things are barely out of the shipping mailers. Just goes to show....

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/26450465

And I still don't have mine.
Maybe some dude in the mail room grabbed it?