The Band - "Music From Big Pink" (new Bob Clearmountain Dolby Atmos mix now streaming!)
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Wow, I think this tops the 5.1 mix he did back in 2018 - even "The Weight" has some nice separation in this version!
Hoping we get Atmos upgrades for the self-titled album and Stage Fright as well
I stopped listening to the latest Chic release, to get my ears in tune for this one.Wow, I think this tops the 5.1 mix he did back in 2018 - even "The Weight" has some nice separation in this version!
Hoping we get Atmos upgrades for the self-titled album and Stage Fright as well
Bob has aced this mix...
Lonesome Suzie is just purring from my heights.
2023, the year that just keeps giving!!
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Just popped up in my YouTube feed:
I was wondering why "The Weight" sounded so much more discrete in this version, that stem separation software is really impressive.
I was wondering why "The Weight" sounded so much more discrete in this version, that stem separation software is really impressive.
This video was great. Thanks for sharing. I was happy to learn that Peter Jackson's (WingNut Films) AI separation technology is not reserved only for use with The Beatles reissues.
splinter7
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Wow! Thanks for sharing.
Imagine being at the dinner?
Imagine being at the dinner?
Yeah but Bob just ‘HAD’ to mention “Revolver”
I suppose this one will be streaming only also; oh well, I’ll stick it in my library, should be fun.
I think the reference to “Revolver” may have been self-serving to Bob Clearmountain in the sense that he can point to another major Atmos mix where this technology was utilized and perhaps limit any criticism he may face by using the technology.Yeah but Bob just ‘HAD’ to mention “Revolver”
I suppose this one will be streaming only also; oh well, I’ll stick it in my library, should be fun.
No doubt the tech is great for them and everyone that loves the music, it’s just no physical Revolver still hurts.I think the reference to “Revolver” may have been self-serving to Bob Clearmountain in the sense that he can point to another major Atmos mix where this technology was utilized and perhaps limit any criticism he may face by using the technology.
I wonder if Peter Jackson will ever make that AI tech into a product. If I recall correctly he was hesitant to do that, but now that it seems like if you happen to know him, you can use it... might be easier for him to spend some time turning it into a product rather than being flagged down by everyone looking for a favor
Right? Is Irving Azoff (Steely Dan's agent) also a good friend of Peter Jackson?
popshop
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We've entered a new era. Good news for surround nerds! I wonder if the use of the "artificial" is accurate or if this is just "intelligence." Curious If they just called this a plug-in or software maybe no one would care, but by calling it AI they can get more press. Same thing with the new Beatles song Paul has prepared.
It seems as we move further along we will need terms to differentiate from this type of restoration versus the type of AI that would generate new vocals, or new music, etc.
I don't understand AI enough to know, but seems like there's nothing artificial happening. It just recognizes an element and then separates it from other elements.
Anyone know?
It seems as we move further along we will need terms to differentiate from this type of restoration versus the type of AI that would generate new vocals, or new music, etc.
I don't understand AI enough to know, but seems like there's nothing artificial happening. It just recognizes an element and then separates it from other elements.
Anyone know?
JediJoker
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"Generative artificial intelligence" is what creates new content based on trained datasets, be it text, audio, or visual.
The technology used in instrument/stem separation software is still "artificial intelligence," but rather than being trained to generate new audio, it is trained to recognize differences in instrument timbre and separate those instruments in the same way we might do in our minds. It's "artificial" because it was programmed by humans, as opposed to "natural intelligence," which is what humans and other animals possess.
So, yes, it's AI, just not of the ChatGPT/MidJourney type.
Near as I can tell, there’s functionally no difference between this and the new Beatles song that made the headlines, it’s using a Neural Net that’s trained on specific instruments to isolate and separate the tracks… the rest is done by humans.
More often than not, “AI” is a misnomer for the overwhelming majority of things you see labeled AI. AI, at least to me, implies sapience, the ability to think for itself. Stuff like ChatGPT is essentially the result of feeding an old chatbot from the 00’s with a full dictionary, thesaurus, Wikipedia etc, and asking it to give you the best result. It doesn’t “think” per se, as much as has made assumptions on what the next “best” word in the sequence is.
Same thing with all the various art bots that can take a prompt like “Frank Zappa eating a hot dog sloppily”, and create an image based on that. It’s not really “creating” anything, in so much as it’s combing its database for “Frank Zappa”, “hot dog” and “sloppy” and combining them into something that could be somewhat confidently defined as an image of Frank Zappa eating a hot dog sloppily.
We are approaching a point where it’s getting good enough to fool the average joe on the street, but I strongly doubt it would outright replace human creativity/intervention.
I was looking forward to listen to this, but I was disappointed. Listened to 2-3 songs including The Weight but I wonder why they call this Atmos, it ain't to me.I stopped listening to the latest Chic release, to get my ears in tune for this one.
Bob has aced this mix...
Lonesome Suzie is just purring from my heights.
2023, the year that just keeps giving!!
Had to listen to Lucinda to check that nothing was wrong with my setup, and it wasn't.
There simply aren't enough elements available on this album to have discrete elements in all seven floor channels and the heights. I think it's remarkable they even got this much out of it.
Would you prefer if it had all the same stuff (vocals, drums, etc) doubled in the top speakers, just to see those all-important meters go in the red?
Some of what's in the surround could have been lifted to the rear heights with a lower volume. The meters only shows what's there or in this case what are not. I almost exclusively listen to music in Atmos, from disc or Apple Music and that's what I pay for but not always gets. For every real Atmos mix on Apple Music there are 2-3 which are not. If a mixer can't or won't use the heights please don't call it Atmos, it's really disappointing to me. This seems like a good 5.1 mix, but that's not what I'm in for.There simply aren't enough elements available on this album to have discrete elements in all seven floor channels and the heights. I think it's remarkable they even got this much out of it.
Would you prefer if it had all the same stuff (vocals, drums, etc) doubled in the top speakers, just to see those all-important meters go in the red?
In the song "Caledonia Mission", the tenor sax (or whatever that instrument is?) is exclusively in the right rear height speaker.
popshop
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Have you considered installing all of your speakers on the ceiling?Some of what's in the surround could have been lifted to the rear heights with a lower volume. The meters only shows what's there or in this case what are not. I almost exclusively listen to music in Atmos, from disc or Apple Music and that's what I pay for but not always gets. For every real Atmos mix on Apple Music there are 2-3 which are not. If a mixer can't or won't use the heights please don't call it Atmos, it's really disappointing to me. This seems like a good 5.1 mix, but that's not what I'm in for.
No, but I'm considering to set my ATV to 5.1 so I can upmix these weak Atmos mixes with Auro 3D.Have you considered installing all of your speakers on the ceiling?
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