5.1 BD!! "Electric Lady Studios: A Jimi Hendrix Vision" 3CD/1BD box set (Experience Hendrix/Legacy) (3/25/2022)

[~dave~~wave~]

I suspect you are correct @~dave~~wave~. ie. That this is the very same bluray and it was not held back because of the flaws but for litigious reasons and furthermore that they wouldn't even care about the audio flaws.
No one with both copies able to put this to rest yet?

News flash!
Today I did an A/B comparison of Room Full of Mirrors between the blu ray from the box set, and the "promo" version I bought on e-bay in June.

I hear a difference in the drum tracksI

...the 5.1 "mix" of Mirrors is clearly an upmix of the drum overdub working mix included in these bonus tracks.

To recap, @jimfisheye got possession of the gray market version below, but declines to pony up for the box set to prove his theory.

I confirm the mix in the box set sounds like the mix on the Rainbow Bridge Soundtrack & First Rays albums.

The "tell" for me was quickly apparent from the lack of cowbell in the left channels on the gray market disc, which is restored in the official version delivered last week.

That prompted me to check matrix numbers, which are different.
The e-bay promo disc numbers end in D25 & DO28.
The disc in the official set is D21 & DO22.

So, some of us have an extremely rare & collectible disc with an alternate 5.1 mix of RFOM ?!

The story of the alternate track 13 on CD3, with Mitch Mitchell overdubbing new drum tracks, is told in the liner notes on page 43 of the book.

Buddy Miles approved this post.

Peace, out.

 

[~dave~~wave~]

Over to the rest of you folks who have two versions of the blu ray to confirm or deny.
@jefe1

 

[DuncanS]

Is there a stand-alone blu-ray?

No, never say never, but probably very unlikely

 

[jimfisheye]

News flash!
Today I did an A/B comparison of Room Full of Mirrors between the blu ray from the box set, and the "promo" version I bought on e-bay in June.

I hear a difference in the drum tracksI

Maybe this was catching and correcting a mistake (eg wrong file) the whole time instead of legal mischief?

 

[LaurensDad]

Confirming re Room Full, it’s definitely a completely different mix, if not a different take. I must admit that I never really cared for the song, so I am not an expert on it. But the differences are obvious. Gonna check all my numbers and will follow up.

Original disc 1:21:39
New disc 1:22:15

 

[jefe1]

okay @~dave~~wave~ when I get home tonight I will compare that track on both blu-rays. I've been concentrating on the CDs and have much to listen to including the new X In Search Of Space which is arriving tonight. But lucky for us it looks like they have fixed this track on the new blu-ray.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

other can please verify my initial findings below for 'Room Full Of Mirrors'. @jefe1

Just a quick check in Audacity, top 5.1 channels is the new 2024 mix and the bottom are the 2021 mix.

A slight clipping on the front channels, no center channel info and minimal LFE for the 2024; also different length with some added guitar pyrotechnics at the end. The 2021 version has some minimal insignificant Center channel info and more LFE volume.

yes, probably a totally different take...

 

[J. PUPSTER]

who knows, the 2021 could be an Up-mix, because perhaps they hadn't found all the tapes, then found them and completed a real mix afterwards, what ya all think? Because that little Center channel stuff sounds like some kind of up-mix throw-off channel to me. And after isolating both rears, the 2021 is just a muddy mess of reverb, but the 2024 is clear with more definition!

 

[jefe1]

Have you noticed any differences in the other tracks if you have had time to listen?

It would have been cool if they had put a hidden track or two on these discs with all the takes in the can....

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Have you noticed any differences in the other tracks if you have had time to listen?

It would have been cool if they had put a hidden track or two on these discs with all the takes in the can....

I haven't checked out any others yet. I did notice after ripping with MakeMKV->MMH that the 2024 songs were out of order and I'd tagged 'em wrong; don't know if that was me or the rip So check your song order please?

 

[MikeMonaco]

Listening to the blu-ray now. All I can say is don't miss this one, it's over the top for me. Fidelity and use of channels is terrific to my old ears. Pure genius in his composition and delivery, and the topics and words still work to this very day. Most of the songs are old favorites from Cry of Love and other works. Some are brand new to me (I need to read the nice booklet)...all are fantastic. We need Jimi now more than ever.

 

[jefe1]

Ok listened to Room Full of Mirrors on both discs which have different numbers.
New mix has cowbell has greater fidelity its different better.
Song order appears same on both.

Should I put up my "promo" copy with the defective mix for sale at $100?

 

[andyp]

This should help. Looks like all of Cry Of Love is there. Excellent sound, excellent mixes.

But is "The Cry of Love" 5.1? That's what I want to know.

 

[jimfisheye]

But is "The Cry of Love" 5.1? That's what I want to know.

All the songs released as The Cry Of Love are included in this 5.1 remix collection. The missing songs are from Rainbow Bridge, War Heroes, and Loose Ends. All the songs on the bluray are 5.1 mixes. The upmix of Room Full Of Mirrors (from Rainbow Bridge) was the exception and now appears to be an error that was corrected!

No one has confirmed yet if the fidelity is back up on the corrected bluray disc. The early bluray I have has subdued/choked fidelity compared to the stereo originals and also compared to the recent Electric Ladyland 5.1 remix.

If someone could comment on the fidelity situation on the corrected bluray that would be cool! I'm pleasantly in shock that this was held up to correct an audio mistake and not cynical litigious behavior!!! I was genuinely offering that possible explanation earlier with full sarcasm and zero hope. This is a really positive direction!

 

[marpow]

I am listening and enjoying CD 1 as I work from home.

 

[5.1 4 Life]

All the songs released as The Cry Of Love are included in this 5.1 remix collection. The missing songs are from Rainbow Bridge, War Heroes, and Loose Ends. All the songs on the bluray are 5.1 mixes. The upmix of Room Full Of Mirrors (from Rainbow Bridge) was the exception and now appears to be an error that was corrected!

No one has confirmed yet if the fidelity is back up on the corrected bluray disc. The early bluray I have has subdued/choked fidelity compared to the stereo originals and also compared to the recent Electric Ladyland 5.1 remix.

If someone could comment on the fidelity situation on the corrected bluray that would be cool! I'm pleasantly in shock that this was held up to correct an audio mistake and not cynical litigious behavior!!! I was genuinely offering that possible explanation earlier with full sarcasm and zero hope. This is a really positive direction!

What we need is an interview with Jimi's engineer (and Co-Producer of the Electric Lady Studios box set) Eddie Kramer to truly clear that up. Anyways, I'm Enjoying the 5.1 mixes of the songs that Hendrix intended for First Rays of The New Rising Sun. Also glad to Finally have this set in my hands over 2 years after pre-ordering it.

 

[marpow]

I wasn't going to rip the box set BD as I have the Ebay BD, but with the above info, I think I will for Room Full of Mirrors and see how all the track numbers line up.

BTW, my favorite Room Full Of Mirrors cover, better than Jimi's version is from The Pretenders album called Get Close.

 

[jefe1]

I like the Pretenders version also. I must have that album somewhere.

 

[hi-res_edition]

Has anyone shared the matrix runouts for the different BD discs to confirm their uniqueness?

 

[~dave~~wave~]

Has anyone shared the matrix runouts for the different BD discs to confirm their uniqueness?

Quoting myself from post #621 https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...ce-hendrix-legacy-3-25-2022.31664/post-809005

The e-bay promo disc numbers end in D25 & DO28.
The disc in the official set is D21 & DO22.

Furthermore, the "promo" track is 36 seconds shorter, as is the running time of the 20-track 5.1 audio program.

Rejoice in the uniqueness.
That's the spirit, Spirit of the Age!....