Coming in August...."Toto IV" on multichannel hybrid SACD w/ bonus tracks in 7" mini LP packaging

[hi-res_edition]

From my perspective, FedEx is the only way to go for orders from CD Japan. DHL just doesn't compare for delivery. Toto IV arrived yesterday, two days prior to release date. This is an excellent package through and through... a bit surprised about the title authoring error, but it doesn't effect my listening experience.

 

[fredblue]

can anyone please advise if the mix, mastering and duration of the 5.1 tracks on the New SACD is the same as the old 5.1 SACD?

thank you in advance

 

[marpow]

Sorry Adam the best I can see on the new SACD the DR's are 1 number higher on some of the tracks (old DR 13, new DR 14).
The songs are about the same but all different, the new some of the songs are much longer, like track 2 old is 3:47 and new is 4:24.
I am just glancing fast, someone else will be more detailed than me.
For you rippers out there, don't forget to rip the CD layer as there are 4 Japanese Bonus Tracks.
I ripped the SACD layer both the stereo and the MCH.

 

[MelodyMayhem]

Arrived in NJ yesterday. A great sounding sacd. Very pleased.

 

[cbmmm3]

Arrival !

 

[sjcorne]

The songs are about the same but all different, the new some of the songs are much longer, like track 2 old is 3:47 and new is 4:24.

Sounds like they used the extended version of "Make Believe", as was done for the 5.1 Blu-Ray in the All In mega set.

 

[marpow]

Sounds like they used the extended version of "Make Believe", as was done for the 5.1 Blu-Ray in the All In mega set.

I'll try to report a track by track break down later tonight if some one doesn't beat me to it, old vs new.

 

[4-earredwonder]

Arrival !

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Mine JUST arrived as well [DHL] along with a big package from Elusive Disc ..... Some serious listening tonight and BEYOND .......

 

[JediJoker]

From my perspective, FedEx is the only way to go for orders from CD Japan. DHL just doesn't compare for delivery. Toto IV arrived yesterday, two days prior to release date. This is an excellent package through and through... a bit surprised about the title authoring error, but it doesn't effect my listening experience.

Release date is listed as August 3, so it arrived *on release date.

 

[Simon A]

I'm really happy to finally have this disc. What a stellar 5.1 and packaging! The SACD Multichannel layer sounds really smooth with a nice dynamic range.

Here's what to expect from the Red Book layer though. Ouch!

 

[JediJoker]

I'm really happy to finally have this disc. What a stellar 5.1 and packaging! The SACD Multichannel layer sounds really smooth with a nice dynamic range.

Here's what to expect from the Red Book layer though. Ouch!

Oof... I hope the SACD stereo tracks fare better.

 

[Simon A]

Oof... I hope the SACD stereo tracks fare better.

No worries there. Everything is as it should be.

The Red Book layer comes from the recent box set and mastered by Toto with Elliott Scheiner.

 

[fetchmybeer]

Packaging is nice, if not a bit excessive. I mean, I really don't care for all the extra stuff. The books are enough for me. It's packaged in much the same way as my Bitch's Brew SACD from Japan, same size as well.

Even though this album was huge when I was listening to the radio all the time, I have never owned it or listened to it all the way through. The three singles I've heard enough. There are a few other songs on there that I like as well. It's very "of the time", but the guys can obviously write, play, and sing as their history would suggest.

I think it sounds pretty good. Great dynamics. It's a rather static surround mix, as one would expect from standard rock n roll like this, but hard to find faults.

 

[~dave~~wave~]

A little context to this 40 year anniversary.

August 5, 1982, forty years ago today, the cover of Rolling Stone featured the Go-Go's.
MTV in full flower.

Their album chart had Toto IV at #6, followed by Eye in the Sky #7, with King Crimson Beat #15 with a bullet.

 

[GOS]

A little context to this 40 year anniversary.

August 5, 1982, forty years ago today, the cover of Rolling Stone featured the Go-Go's.
MTV in full flower.

Their album chart had Toto IV at #6, followed by Eye in the Sky #7, with King Crimson Beat #15 with a bullet.


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Oh man, I used to LOVE grazing over the Rolling Stone album charts. Such memories....

 

[DuncanS]

A little context to this 40 year anniversary.

August 5, 1982, forty years ago today, the cover of Rolling Stone featured the Go-Go's.
MTV in full flower.

Their album chart had Toto IV at #6, followed by Eye in the Sky #7, with King Crimson Beat #15 with a bullet.


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Oh man, I used to LOVE grazing over the Rolling Stone album charts. Such memories....

The scary thing is it only seems like yesterday! and I know I've 22 of those albums, possibly more!!

 

[Tres Discrete]

The scary thing is it only seems like yesterday! and I know I've 22 of those albums, possibly more!!

Wow…hard to believe that was 40 years ago.
I had graduated High School a couple of months before this.
Interesting to look at that chart to see how my musical tastes were changing.
I started High School as a hard rock/ metalhead, of course had the Ozzy & VH titles on there…but also started branching out to “alternative” with Bow Wow Wow, Flock of Seagulls, and Haircut 100.
Even saw Haircut 100 at The Pier in NYC that Summer …or was it the Summer before?!
The memory is a little foggy these days

 

[jefe1]

Yes I bought several of those albums at the time and still have them Tug OF War, All the Best Cowboys, Beauty and the Beat, Bella Donna and remember the MTV singles. You can almost measure your life by the music you listen to...,

 

[marpow]

@fredblue OK I hope this is info that will help you Adam.
2003 5.1 SACD vs 2022 5.1 SACD

2003 Track 1 5:33 DR14-------2022 Track 1 5:32 DR14
Track 2 3:47 DR14------- Track 2 4:24 DR14
Track 3 4:55 DR15------- Track 3 4:53 DR15
Track 4 3:23 DR13------- Track 4 3:17 DR14
Track 5 3:07 DR15------- Track 5 3:04 DR14
Track 6 3:51 DR13------- Track 6 4:51 DR14
Track 7 4:27 DR13------- Track 7 4:32 DR13
Track 8 3:57 DR14------- Track 8 4:08 DR15
Track 9 4:13 DR16------- Track 9 4:11 DR16
Trac 10 4:57 DR15------- Trac 10 4:55 DR15
I have no speculation or experience as to why the slight differences.
I can say I really like the new version, seems softer for lack of a better word.

 

[4-earredwonder]

@fredblue OK I hope this is info that will help you Adam.
2003 5.1 SACD vs 2022 5.1 SACD

2003 Track 1 5:33 DR14-------2022 Track 1 5:32 DR14
Track 2 3:47 DR14------- Track 2 4:24 DR14
Track 3 4:55 DR15------- Track 3 4:53 DR15
Track 4 3:23 DR13------- Track 4 3:17 DR14
Track 5 3:07 DR15------- Track 5 3:04 DR14
Track 6 3:51 DR13------- Track 6 4:51 DR14
Track 7 4:27 DR13------- Track 7 4:32 DR13
Track 8 3:57 DR14------- Track 8 4:08 DR15
Track 9 4:13 DR16------- Track 9 4:11 DR16
Trac 10 4:57 DR15------- Trac 10 4:55 DR15
I have no speculation or experience as to why the slight differences.
I can say I really like the new version, seems softer for lack of a better word.

The 2003 version was most probably DSD64 mastered from the analogue tapes whereas the new version utilizes DSD256 mastering from a DSD mastered source but don't know if that would affect those DR scores ...which in BOTH instances are HIGHLY RESPECTABLE!

At any rate, thanks for those DR comparisons, Professor Powers!