Guess who's now selling Quadios

[surroundophile]

I'm assuming you're referring to Audio Fidelity.

Again, let's get to the point:


Are these actual direct quotes? Or were you using quotation marks incorrectly for emphasis?

Yes, Audio Fidelity. Thank you.

Not direct quotes, just my equivalent quotes of what I remember of what was said at the time.

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Unbeknown to me, VOX even released Dolby QS encoded cassettes: One example:

VOX (Cassette Tapes)

CT-2105 (DQSC) DVORAK: Cello Concerto in B Minor, Silent Woods Rondo in
G Minor (Zara Nelsova-Cello/St. Louis Symphony/Walter Susskind Conductor)

Unbeknownst you say , Really ? So you didn't know ?


They had many cassettes that were QS encoded ,
so as long as the LP was.....QS , then the cassettes were.

I think I have about eight of them, but there were many more.

 

[JonUrban]

I can tell you all from 'inside sources' that the current MFSL has avoided adding the quad tracks to many titles they paid for exclusive windows on, thus "Quad Blocking" any other label from releasing the quad masters due to the licensing window.

As mentioned earlier, Rhino/WMG can do whatever the like because they are the owners of the titles, but MFSL discs like Nilsson's "Nilsson Schmilsson" and many others were put out by MFSL which prevented other labels like Audio Fidelity from licensing the title.

Not just during the exclusive window. But after the window expired, the cost of putting out a title that was recently released by MFSL was not financially sound as the addition of the quad tracks was not enough to make the general population go out and buy the same title again.

I would have to say that the term "Quad Blocking" would not exist in the world if it were not for Music Direct and their ownership of what used to be a leader in quadraphonics, Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs

 

[4-earredwonder]

I can tell you all from 'inside sources' that the current MFSL has avoided adding the quad tracks to many titles they paid for exclusive windows on, thus "Quad Blocking" any other label from releasing the quad masters due to the licensing window.

As mentioned earlier, Rhino/WMG can do whatever the like because they are the owners of the titles, but MFSL discs like Nilsson's "Nilsson Schmilsson" and many others were put out by MFSL which prevented other labels like Audio Fidelity from licensing the title.

Not just during the exclusive window. But after the window expired, the cost of putting out a title that was recently released by MFSL was not financially sound as the addition of the quad tracks was not enough to make the general population go out and buy the same title again.

I would have to say that the term "Quad Blocking" would not exist in the world if it were not for Music Direct and their ownership of what used to be a leader in quadraphonics, Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs

Jon, I would have to say that the MOST egregious example of MoFi's QUADBLOCKING was S&G BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER which CDJapan had earmarked for a QUAD SACD release in their special 7" packaging.

As soon as MoFi announced their pricey 1 Step VINYL and Stereo SACD releases of this iconic album, CDJapan canceled their QUAD SACD release!

I certainly hope that in 2025, CDJapan releases not only BOTW in QUAD but S&G's BOOKENDS as well [which does have an unreleased QUAD remix]!

 

[jefe1]

Where is the Mafia when you need them......

"That's a nice disc pressing plant that you have there. It would be a shame if something happened to the chief engineer like accidently breaking both of his legs...."

 

[quicksrt]

I still think that Music Direct carrying Quadio BD releases and Mobile Fidelity releasing quad product are two very different things. It doesn’t not suggest MFSL have had any reevaluation on the subject. But It does speak to the buyers in that the Quadio line is an upscale product worthy of audiophile interest at Music Direct.

It is great to see Quadio releases get noticed in the market place. The online stores know how to position these discs in a way that retail stores didn’t back in 1999-2004 with SACD and DVD-Audio that’s for sure!

 

[JediJoker]

Jon, I would have to say that the MOST egregious example of MoFi's QUADBLOCKING was S&G BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER which CDJapan had earmarked for a QUAD SACD release in their special 7" packaging.

As soon as MoFi announced their pricey 1 Step VINYL and Stereo SACD releases of this iconic album, CDJapan canceled their QUAD SACD release!

I certainly hope that in 2025, CDJapan releases not only BOTW in QUAD but S&G's BOOKENDS as well [which does have an unreleased QUAD remix]!

Nope. That was a different situation. MoFi's license would have been North America-specific, and CDJapan is just a retailer. The prospective label was Sony Japan, and Sony Japan—the parent company of Columbia Records, who own the Simon & Garfunkel recording catalogue—could have freely released Bridge Over Troubled Water during MoFi's exclusivity period, just as Rhino can release a Quadio of any Warner title licensed to MoFi. It was speculated that Paul Simon, as writing (and maybe publishing?) copyright holder to the songs, vetoed the release. None of the quad mixes of his albums have seen digital rereleases.

 

[quicksrt]

Nope. That was a different situation. MoFi's license would have been North America-specific, and CDJapan is just a retailer. The prospective label was Sony Japan, and Sony Japan—the parent company of Columbia Records, who own the Simon & Garfunkel recording catalogue—could have freely released Bridge Over Troubled Water during MoFi's exclusivity period, just as Rhino can release a Quadio of any Warner title licensed to MoFi. It was speculated that Paul Simon, as writing (and maybe publishing?) copyright holder to the songs, vetoed the release. None of the quad mixes of his albums have seen digital rereleases.

But a couple of Paul Simon quad mixes are or were streaming on Apple ….is pretty close.

I believe Simon has now sold his interest in the S&G publishing as well as recorded masters. Sold his solo masters as well but retained the publishing, something like that. So the BOTW album could now if I am correct be issued on a 7” series SACD in Japan without as much red tape involved.

 

[4-earredwonder]

But a couple of Paul Simon quad mixes are or were streaming on Apple ….is pretty close.

I believe Simon has now sold his interest in the S&G publishing as well as recorded masters. Sold his solo masters as well but retained the publishing, something like that. So the BOTW album could now if I am correct be issued on a 7” series SACD in Japan without as much red tape involved.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...catalog-sony-millions-he-ll-still-ncna1262845

 

[4-earredwonder]

The reason I did list Simon and Garfunkel's BOOKENDS as remixed [by Jim Reeves, no less] and as an unreleased QUAD title comes directly from this tidbit of info from Mark Anderson's QUADRAPHONIC DISCOGRAPHY:


SIMON & GARFUNKEL -
Bookends. Columbia # unknown (SQ) (Q8)
{quad mix by Jim Reeves that was not released as listed on his website at
http://www.reevesaudio.com/references.html, formats are assumed}

 

[4-earredwonder]

And for the curious [and who isn't?] here's a comprehensive list compiled by Mark Anderson of titles that were remixed for QUAD but never released:

http://www.surrounddiscography.com/quaddisc/quadnot.htm

 

[quicksrt]

I'd like to see the full list of quad mixes completed in the 70s but not issued until the last decade or so.
The true historical account, all labels.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

So, how many people are gonna join this thread thinking The Guess Who are part of the next quadio lineup?

 

[gvl_guy]

But a couple of Paul Simon quad mixes are or were streaming on Apple ….is pretty close.

I believe Simon has now sold his interest in the S&G publishing as well as recorded masters. Sold his solo masters as well but retained the publishing, something like that. So the BOTW album could now if I am correct be issued on a 7” series SACD in Japan without as much red tape involved.

Good news for sure....but.....
Who bought the rights? Wouldn't that make a difference for any releases? They could ask for too much $$ for the rights. Or, they could be planning something else. For example, maybe Sony won't have the rights anymore to release the material? They could sell the rights to a higher bidder.
Hopeful all the good stuff happens, but just trying to be real.

 

[esimms86]

Good news for sure....but.....
Who bought the rights? Wouldn't that make a difference for any releases? They could ask for too much $$ for the rights. Or, they could be planning something else. For example, maybe Sony won't have the rights anymore to release the material? They could sell the rights to a higher bidder.
Hopeful all the good stuff happens, but just trying to be real.