MakeMKV/Music Media Helper - all tracks blank except the last one which contains full album!

[Spoob]

Apologies if this is addressed elsewhere, I've turned the internet upside down trying to find an answer!

I have an audio DVD with a 5.1 surround mix. Trying to extract it so I may rip the individual files.

It creates an MKV file which looks correct (the MakeMKV part). But when I use Music Media Helper to try to extract the individual files to .flac format, it creates the expected number of tracks, but all are blank except the last one, which contains one large file of the entire album. I can then load the large file into a wave editor and break them up manually, but I shouldn't have to do that (and this only seems to happen with a handful of my discs, lots of them extract the audio perfectly).

Help?

 

[atrocity]

Apologies if this is addressed elsewhere, I've turned the internet upside down trying to find an answer!

I have an audio DVD with a 5.1 surround mix. Trying to extract it so I may rip the individual files.

It creates an MKV file which looks correct (the MakeMKV part). But when I use Music Media Helper to try to extract the individual files to .flac format, it creates the expected number of tracks, but all are blank except the last one, which contains one large file of the entire album. I can then load the large file into a wave editor and break them up manually, but I shouldn't have to do that (and this only seems to happen with a handful of my discs, lots of them extract the audio perfectly).

Help?

I've had this happen before with several discs. The only workaround I found was to go back and use DVD Decrypter to get the DTS tracks off the disc and then a Python program to "wrap" the DTS data into a WAV file which I then FLACed.

 

[HomerJAU]

Can you open the MKV in the Music Media Helper Chapter Editor and post a screen shot please? Or alternatively upload the MKV and send me a PM with a link and I’ll take a look at the issue.

 

[atrocity]

Can you open the MKV in the Music Media Helper Chapter Editor and post a screen shot please? Or alternatively upload the MKV and send me a PM with a link and I’ll take a look at the issue.

Based on my experience, it's likely that the problem lies with MakeMKV and not MMH. Some discs--the King Crimsons come to mind--seem to have some authoring quirk that confuses MakeMKV at chapter time but work fine with DVD Decrypter.

https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17627&p=63671&hilit=king+crimson#p63671

 

[HomerJAU]

That MakeMKV issue was back in 2019. Is it still not fixed?

 

[Spoob]

Can you open the MKV in the Music Media Helper Chapter Editor and post a screen shot please? Or alternatively upload the MKV and send me a PM with a link and I’ll take a look at the issue.

Yes certainly. This is what I get with the Razor and Tie edition of the first Emerson, Lake and Palmer album.

 

[Spoob]

That MakeMKV issue was back in 2019. Is it still not fixed?

I asked on their forum - crickets.

 

[HomerJAU]

That’s the issue @atrocity mentioned with MakeMKV. If you are using the latest version of MakeMKV the other thing would be to rerip without the video stream to a mka file, and split that in MMH to FLAC

 

[Spoob]

That’s the issue @atrocity mentioned with MakeMKV. If you are using the latest version of MakeMKV the other thing would be to rerip without the video stream to a mka file, and split that in MMH to FLAC

Thanks, I've never ripped to MKA before. Is there a good (easy) program that is recommended? (Maybe MakeMKV can do it but I can't figure it out...)

 

[HomerJAU]

MKVTOOLNIX is free and will do it (don’t select the video stream) but I think you need to decrypt first with MakeMKV using the ‘backup’ option. Open the backup in MKVToolNix and create the MKA. Or open the backup using AudioMuxer (free) and convert to FLAC.

EDIT: You can try to open the DVD using AudioMuxer without using MakeMKV if the DVD has no copyright protection.

 

[atrocity]

That MakeMKV issue was back in 2019. Is it still not fixed?

I don't remember anyone from MakeMKV so much as acknowledging the complaints.

 

[HomerJAU]

I was just reminded of this thread.

MKVtoolnix (used in MMH) still has this issue with some releases.

MMH’s Chapter Editor has been updated to show chapter durations and now warns of very short chapters. It’s common to have one at the very end of some BDs, in which case you can remove the chapter in the chapter editor. Note: This does not trim the file it just removes the chapter metadata.

Here’s one way to fix MKV files with this authoring issue:
MMH’s Chapter Editor: Manually enter new chapter times, then ‘Save’. Saving is very fast and does not require a remux.

Play the MKV file in VLC and you can see the chapter markings, and current player time, use pause to see the song start time and enter that in the MMH chapter editor, save. Rinse and repeat until you are satisfied with the chapter times. Then split or create a cue file etc.

I’ll probably extend Chapter Editor functionality in the upcoming MMH 9 release to be released next month.

 

[HomerJAU]

Based on my experience, it's likely that the problem lies with MakeMKV and not MMH. Some discs--the King Crimsons come to mind--seem to have some authoring quirk that confuses MakeMKV at chapter time but work fine with DVD Decrypter.

https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17627&p=63671&hilit=king+crimson#p63671

Can someone post the names of some releases that exhibit this issue please?

I’d like to see if I can find a workaround for this issue. I don’t have any of the releases mentioned here.

THX