Mike Oldfield "Tubular Bells" (limited-run SDE Blu-Ray with Dolby Atmos, 5.1, and Quad mixes shipping 5/26)

[konoyaro]

Someone uploaded TItle 1 (51:57) as "2009 5.1 mix", but my Title 1 is the QUAD mix (DTS).

So, not sure if it helps but this is my selection:

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

I used MakeMKV in 'back-up' mode (to back-up the disc) followed by TSmuxerGUI to merge the part ones and twos together: -

As you can see, TSmuxerGUI is reporting different durations to @konoyaro's. However, these durations will be different again after the video streams are removed

Cheers

 

[anibal]

Are there people from the Netherlands who are still waiting for delivery of Tubular Bells, I received only notice from SDE, but tracking status by Royal Mail stated:

We're expecting it​

The sender has let us know they have despatched your item.

Apparently my copy left Langley on Saturday

 

[jaybird100]

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https://tubular.net/forums/tubular-...f37fcbfd9e456bd8a86d7&act=ST;f=19;t=9130;st=0

Oooo-kay!

 

[stereoptic]

@konoyaro - thanks for the screen shot. It is odd that it is so much different than mine. I used MAKEMKV as usual, then DVD-AE.

 

[JulesRules]

Oooo-kay!

Boot-leg! Boot-leg!

 

[Charly Mann]

Mine arrived today in pristine condition at my home in NE Oklahoma. The ATMOS rendition is fantastic.

 

[CINERAMAX]

OM-F-G 11!!!

Nuttin' wrong with the ending, are you kidding? Sounding perfecto in the CINERAMAX newly gone coaxial Atmos lab.

 

[CINERAMAX]

By the way if you like getting approached in a personally space invading way by the sound objects nothing beats coaxial for coherency and controlled directivity what best manifests in these jumping at you effects.

 

[Albert Dagger]

Question regarding the Quad mix: If I own the 2001 SACD with the quad mix, do I need to re-rip the quad from this SDE Blu-ray?
I understand the two might be different in mastering, but I would happily avoid duplicates if I don't have to re-rip it... and I'll just grab the Atmos mix and the 2009 5.1 mix.

 

[Scott65]

Mine arrived today. Now to play it several times....

 

[Scott65]

Mine arrived today. Now to play it several times....

As much as I love the quad mix (I have the SACD) I must admit I am really liking the Atmos mix. I do miss Vivian Stanshall vocals on the Sailor's Hornpipe though (buggered if I know why.....).

 

[ArmyOfQuad]

There was an earlier quad upmix from stereo that was on CD-4 but that didn't have the tromping around the studio ending and is not a real quad mix. That isn't on either the SACD or the Blu Ray.

What determines whether or not a quad mix is "real"?

What is the basis of the classification of the US CD4/Q8 mix of Tubular bells as "upmix"? It's another one of those facts that I'm sure I've read somewhere multiple times. The SACD makes reference to "abortive attempts at an earlier four channel remix" - but abortive implies unfinished. It's not clear what exactly that's referring to. I do recall reading something elsewhere about the original mix that used language about it being "fake" or "upmix" though. But I don't remember what exactly I read where or when.

But we've often found that artist recollections of things don't align exactly. Having the CD4 and Q8, they aren't anything I'd classify as upmix or fake. Perhaps there were technical complications that resulted in a compromised product that left people with negative views/memories of the mix. Perhaps with these limitations, they had to "fake" a few things - which then turns into them dismissing it as "oh, we faked that". But from hearing this mix, this isn't like the A&M fake mixes of Herb Alpert or Sergio Mendes.

 

[edisonbaggins]

What determines whether or not a quad mix is "real"?

What is the basis of the classification of the US CD4/Q8 mix of Tubular bells as "upmix"? It's another one of those facts that I'm sure I've read somewhere multiple times. The SACD makes reference to "abortive attempts at an earlier four channel remix" - but abortive implies unfinished. It's not clear what exactly that's referring to. I do recall reading something elsewhere about the original mix that used language about it being "fake" or "upmix" though. But I don't remember what exactly I read where or when.

But we've often found that artist recollections of things don't align exactly. Having the CD4 and Q8, they aren't anything I'd classify as upmix or fake. Perhaps there were technical complications that resulted in a compromised product that left people with negative views/memories of the mix. Perhaps with these limitations, they had to "fake" a few things - which then turns into them dismissing it as "oh, we faked that". But from hearing this mix, this isn't like the A&M fake mixes of Herb Alpert or Sergio Mendes.

In the liner notes of one of the versions I have, MO calls the original Quad mix a weird attempt using phase tricks, that the studio wasn't sophisticated enough to do more.
That's just a paraphrase from my dodgy memory.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

OM-F-G 11!!!

Nuttin' wrong with the ending, are you kidding? Sounding perfecto in the CINERAMAX newly gone coaxial Atmos lab. View attachment 92488

From what I've seen in this forum, you're the only one with an actual Atmos setup.

 

[sjcorne]

From what I've seen in this forum, you're the only one with an actual Atmos setup.

I think a lot of folks posting here have Atmos setups, no?

 

[Albert Dagger]

Any reason to rip the Quad mix from the blu-ray if I already own the 2001 SACD? Any differences? I would be happy to save time and disc space if the two are identical or similar.

 

[Dynamic Editor]

Any reason to rip the Quad mix from the blu-ray if I already own the 2001 SACD? Any differences? I would be happy to save time and disc space if the two are identical or similar.

Well, the question is if the 2001 release has this error that's on the Blu Ray release or not, because it's pretty important: HiRez Poll - Oldfield, Mike - TUBULAR BELLS [Blu-Ray Audio (Dolby Atmos)]

 

[Albert Dagger]

Well, the question is if the 2001 release has this error that's on the Blu Ray release or not, because it's pretty important: HiRez Poll - Oldfield, Mike - TUBULAR BELLS [Blu-Ray Audio (Dolby Atmos)]

Thanks. I don't think the 2001 SACD has this error (see screenshot below). The two front channels of the SACD are on top, the Blu-ray at the bottom.
Also, on the Blu-ray, the EQ is slightly different.

 

[SeeMoreDigital]

Thanks. I don't think the 2001 SACD has this error (see screenshot below). The two front channels of the SACD are on top, the Blu-ray at the bottom.

Hmmm... How can we know with 100% certainty which version is in error?