Modern player for DTS CDs, DVD-A, and SACD 5.1?

[mandrix]

Jeez it's been so long, I can't remember sticking a USB stick in the Oppo's. (except to rip SACD)
Now we have networked Oppo's so no point? IDK don't listen to FLAC with the Oppo's as I can do it on the pc in a fraction of the time.

Not trying to incite anything, but is there something magical about playing files on an Oppo? (I have three)
Oppo evolved somewhat over the years in file playback types (but not a whole lot)
If I were a diehard Oppo user, and had any model from 103-205, I would jailbreak that sucker. Won't change file type that wasn't supported, other than will play about any .iso file you throw at it over your LAN. SACD/BD/DVDA/DTS/DVD etc.

My 103 is jailbroke. I mean, great. I can browse my LAN and play about anything I have.

Until yesterday. Stopped responding at all to either the remote, or a Harmony remote I programmed years ago.
Time to get in touch with the good guys in Cali and see what's what. (Oppo service)

 

[Scytales]

I have updated my survey of all universal multichannel disc players in #81 (version 31).

 

[mandrix]

Jeez it's been so long, I can't remember sticking a USB stick in the Oppo's. (except to rip SACD)
Now we have networked Oppo's so no point? IDK don't listen to FLAC with the Oppo's as I can do it on the pc in a fraction of the time.

Not trying to incite anything, but is there something magical about playing files on an Oppo? (I have three)
Oppo evolved somewhat over the years in file playback types (but not a whole lot)
If I were a diehard Oppo user, and had any model from 103-205, I would jailbreak that sucker. Won't change file type that wasn't supported, other than will play about any .iso file you throw at it over your LAN. SACD/BD/DVDA/DTS/DVD etc.

My 103 is jailbroke. I mean, great. I can browse my LAN and play about anything I have.

Until yesterday. Stopped responding at all to either the remote, or a Harmony remote I programmed years ago.
Time to get in touch with the good guys in Cali and see what's what. (Oppo service)

Happy to report the Oppo remote is fixed, and the 103 is working fine. I cleaned out the remote with some contact spray....I'm thinking the remote code selector was not making contact? IDK.

 

[mandrix]

Samsung HD-841 (with free hacked firmware)
Samsung HD-941 (with free hacked firmware)
plays DVDA/DVDA-R, DVD, SACD, SACD-R, DTS-CD. The firmware was only hacked to play SACD-R, or burned, SACD discs.

Oppo DV-970HD, same as above

Oppo BDP-80
plays DVDA/DVDA-R, DVD, DTS-CD, SACD, SACD-R, BD with stock firmware (No 4K BD)

Oppo BDP-103 (Russian firmware)
plays .ISO files, folders & anything off the network except 4k

...added because I don't read French, whether useful or not.

 

[Bill_in_Cle]

I recently purchased a Sony UBP-X800M2 (as a backup to my Oppo 103). I'm in the US and have 1 PAL DVD; out of curiosity, I put it in the player and it works! The manual makes no mention of NTSC or PAL. Is it common that modern players can handle both formats? With the selling of players worldwide, it would make sense to design them to do so.

 

[4-earredwonder]

I recently purchased a Sony UBP-X800M2 (as a backup to my Oppo 103). I'm in the US and have 1 PAL DVD; out of curiosity, I put it in the player and it works! The manual makes no mention of NTSC or PAL. Is it common that modern players can handle both formats? With the selling of players worldwide, it would make sense to design them to do so.

While your SONY and most OPPOs will play PAL DVDs they won't under any circumstance play Region B or C BD~Vs unless you sprung for a region free player!

 

[Quadkid]

I recently purchased a Sony UBP-X800M2 (as a backup to my Oppo 103). I'm in the US and have 1 PAL DVD; out of curiosity, I put it in the player and it works! The manual makes no mention of NTSC or PAL. Is it common that modern players can handle both formats? With the selling of players worldwide, it would make sense to design them to do so.

I have the exact same setup on disc players!!!

 

[Sal1950]

Not trying to incite anything, but is there something magical about playing files on an Oppo? (I have three)
Oppo evolved somewhat over the years in file playback types (but not a whole lot)

The Oppos were known to use TOTL DAC's in their players.
The 205 Amir measuered at ASR offered
"There is no getting around it: the Oppo UDP-205 nails the measurements and almost across the board beats its competitors. It delivered the best measured performance of any DAC I have tested to date! Of course it earns my strong recommendation."
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...measurements-of-oppo-udp-205-uhd-player.3660/
The older 105 didn't fare so well but there could have been problems with the unit being tested.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...urements-of-oppo-bdp-105-blu-ray-player.2421/

If you use these Oppos from their audio analog outputs into an AVR with the same, it may be possible for the Oppos to deliver better sound than others depending on the unit compared against.
OTOH, if used from the HDMI digital feed, the results you get will mainly depend on the AVR being used.

 

[mandrix]

OTOH, if used from the HDMI digital feed, the results you get will mainly depend on the AVR being used.

Sure. Why I see no point in using analog except in necessary circumstances. (and I realize some have that need)

 

[mandrix]

While your SONY and most OPPOs will play PAL DVDs they won't under any circumstance play Region B or C BD~Vs unless you sprung for a region free player!

My 103 is jailbroke, but I do not remember if it's BD region free. None of my Oppo's have ever had a problem with PAL DVD's, although I don't remember the specifics of how the conversion is done for NTSC.

I don't believe I have any discs with those region codes. I'd be interested in testing, though.

Just looked on the site where I purchased the firmware and it says the region code can be changed. Don't recall ever having needed to though, for sure.

https://www.oppo-jb.com/

 

[mandrix]

Since my primary playback is through pc apps, I believe ripping with DVDFab will remove the region codes or at least change it somehow? Unsure as i haven't been through the settings in a while.
I do recall the software asking a few times what region code the BD I was ripping was from, though what it applied/didn't apply I honestly don't know. Long as it plays, I'm happy. lol.

 

[Sonik Wiz]

My 103 is jailbroke, but I do not remember if it's BD region free. None of my Oppo's have ever had a problem with PAL DVD's, although I don't remember the specifics of how the conversion is done for NTSC.

My 105 is not fully jail broke, just the firmware mod from the well known Oppo Super Disc. It met my needs as when buying Japanese DVD's I would otherwise have to rip them first Slysoft AnyDVD to get them to play in the Oppo. When Bul-ray standards came out the regions matched so I can play any Japanese BRD anyway. And I've played German origin DVD's no prob.

But my real question I'm slow to getting around to is: are we still living in the age of NTSC/PAL/SECAM? Weren't standards consolidated in the mass conversion to digital video format?

 

[mandrix]

My 105 is not fully jail broke, just the firmware mod from the well known Oppo Super Disc. It met my needs as when buying Japanese DVD's I would otherwise have to rip them first Slysoft AnyDVD to get them to play in the Oppo. When Bul-ray standards came out the regions matched so I can play any Japanese BRD anyway. And I've played German origin DVD's no prob.

But my real question I'm slow to getting around to is: are we still living in the age of NTSC/PAL/SECAM? Weren't standards consolidated in the mass conversion to digital video format?

Well....NTSC & PAL use different aspect ratios, as you know. But as to your question I really don't know.
I authored a few DVD-A discs for PAL, and all the slides/pics had to be in a different aspect ratio and I think I used a different PAR, or pixel aspect ratio. Would have to consult notes to remember.

 

[mandrix]

Doesn't Japan use NTSC?

 

[Sonik Wiz]

Doesn't Japan use NTSC?

Yes. But they have different region codes. And after an Oppo update it wouldn't play ISO files from mem stick or HD. So after ripping I would need to burn a disc of the J disc I just ripped. Very cumbersome. The Super Disc update didn't fix the ISO problem but it sure helped otherwise.

 

[mandrix]

Blu-ray discs use letter-based region codes to indicate the geographic areas where they can be played:

• Region A: Includes North and South America, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and other Southeast Asian countries
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• Region B: Includes Europe, Africa, the Middle East, Australia, and New Zealand
  
  
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• Region C: Includes Asia, excluding Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and other Southeast Asian countries
  
  
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• Region ABC: A region-free code that applies to countries in all three regions

Unless of course you mean DVD's, that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

 

[mandrix]

Region 1:

The United States, Canada, Bermuda, and U.S. territories

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• Region 2: Japan, Europe, South Africa, the Middle East, and Greenland
  
  
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• Region 3: Southeast Asia, East Asia, including Hong Kong
  
  
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• Region 4: Australia, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, Central America, South America, and the Caribbean
  
  
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• Region 5: Eastern Europe, Russia, the Indian Subcontinent, Africa, North Korea, and Mongolia
  
  
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• Region 6: China
  
  
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• Region 7: Reserved for unspecified special use
  
  
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• Region 8: Reserved for special international venues, such as cruise ships and airplanes
  
  
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• Region 0 or Region ALL: Discs are uncoded and can be played worldwide

 

[mandrix]

What a mess. lol.

 

[Sonik Wiz]

Region 1:

The United States, Canada, Bermuda, and U.S. territories

• 
  
• Region 2: Japan, Europe, South Africa, the Middle East, and Greenland
  
  
• 
  
• Region 3: Southeast Asia, East Asia, including Hong Kong
  
  
• 
  
• Region 4: Australia, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, Central America, South America, and the Caribbean
  
  
• 
  
• Region 5: Eastern Europe, Russia, the Indian Subcontinent, Africa, North Korea, and Mongolia
  
  
• 
  
• Region 6: China
  
  
• 
  
• Region 7: Reserved for unspecified special use
  
  
• 
  
• Region 8: Reserved for special international venues, such as cruise ships and airplanes
  
  
• 
  
• Region 0 or Region ALL: Discs are uncoded and can be played worldwide

Good list for reference. Yes it's a great benefit to me that Asian Blu-rays & USA Blu-rays are compatible. But my original comments were in regard to DVD, which they are not.

Anyway I found my the answer to my question if NTSC/PAL is still relevant in the digital world. Half of everything here I know off the top of my head, but it does eventually address the my main question:

https://www.lifewire.com/why-ntsc-and-pal-still-matter-1847856

 

[mandrix]

Good list for reference. Yes it's a great benefit to me that Asian Blu-rays & USA Blu-rays are compatible. But my original comments were in regard to DVD, which they are not.

Anyway I found my the answer to my question if NTSC/PAL is still relevant in the digital world. Half of everything here I know off the top of my head, but it does eventually address the my main question:

https://www.lifewire.com/why-ntsc-and-pal-still-matter-1847856

Good refresher. More stuff I forgot!