New Surround Master v2 - Pre-Order Roster Discussion Thread

[Mcallister]

Hi All

Re the super duper surround pre amp. The issue is Dave the Bitch's time. He is well down the path but held up with:...........

1 The final tests and approvals of our first batch of our new Y4 surround systems due for USA.
2 Keeping our software developers of our new encoder plugin for home studio's fed
3 Keeping a very pushy "secret" customer using our technology happy (it pays well!)

With a bit of luck he will get on it again by mid July. We will be supplying it with an external HDMI adapter as I do not want to be cptive by their $20,000 pa license fee and stuck with a previous revision on their next upgrade to this shitty format!

Onwards excelsior

Curious, I’m really wanting to join The surround master club. What price point are you shooting for with the new preamp? I want to know if I should wait or just got for a surround master 2?

My hold up with the 2 is I really need digital out, and digital in would be a big plus. I’d like to be able to use my existing room eq and with the 2 I’d have to use the analog inputs on my pre/pro which bypasses room eq.

 

[chucky3042]

Curious, I’m really wanting to join The surround master club. What price point are you shooting for with the new preamp? I want to know if I should wait or just got for a surround master 2?

My hold up with the 2 is I really need digital out, and digital in would be a big plus. I’d like to be able to use my existing room eq and with the 2 I’d have to use the analog inputs on my pre/pro which bypasses room eq.

I am aiming at a cent below USD$2000

 

[4-earredwonder]

I am aiming at a cent below USD$2000

What is the PENNY for .... your THOUGHTS?

 

[J. PUPSTER]

What is the PENNY for .... your THOUGHTS?

It's the "Generous" savings you receive from decades of learning and R&D, struggling in a cut throat business, and the immense benefits and pleasure you get out of their hard earned blood, sweat and tears. - In other words, a bargain at any measure!

 

[4-earredwonder]

It's the "Generous" savings you receive from decades of learning and R&D, struggling in a cut throat business, and the immense benefits and pleasure you get out of their hard earned blood, sweat and tears. - In other words, a bargain at any measure!

Don't BS me, Pupster, it's probably Dave the Bitch's cut of the profits!

 

[chucky3042]

It's the "Generous" savings you receive from decades of learning and R&D, struggling in a cut throat business, and the immense benefits and pleasure you get out of their hard earned blood, sweat and tears. - In other words, a bargain at any measure!

It's more about the psychological hifi barrier of $2000. $1999.99 sounds and looks way cheaper!

 

[Sonik Wiz]

It's more about the psychological hifi barrier of $2000. $1999.99 sounds and looks way cheaper!

$199.99 looks way cheaper & probably sounds the same!
Seriously how much does HDMI add to each unit?

 

[chucky3042]

$199.99 looks way cheaper & probably sounds the same!
Seriously how much does HDMI add to each unit?

Respectfully F#!%k HDMI!

Here is what it adds:

Plus it adds usd$20,000 of fees plus the cost of the chips, plus a lot of them are very dicky and do not always work, plus the bastards change revisions with poor backwards compatibility. We will supply the new Y4 (its sounding great!) with an outboard HDMI adapter

 

[ss9001]

Hey Chucky (& others)

I don't do daily forum checking like I did yrs ago, so I'd greatly appreciate being brought up-to-date on the latest V2 (V3?) Surround Master. Any changes to the Involve/QS and SQ algorithms since the original? Any improvements to separation & steering?

I admit I sold my original SQ SM about a year ago, thinking my restored Sansui QRX9001 (original owner from '78), QSD1 & Tate decoders were all I needed. But I'm having a twinge of new interest + upgraditis, depending on what the new unit does vs. the old one. And I'm beginning to consider getting the new version depending...on what you and others can tell me

I know some of the folks have probably done exhaustive comparisons of the V2/V3 to Sansui, Audionics/Fosgate-Tate gear as well as vs. the orig SM/SQ version. In a nutshell, are we talking about equal performance or something audibly better?

Finally what's the supply & shipping status now? If I ordered this month, realistically when could I expect delivery to Atlanta?

Also I have a good friend on the AVSForum, who knows I'm an old quadraphile, called me asking if I knew about Involve and the Surround Master. He had heard it mentioned by one of his audio-buddies. Needless to say I gave the original SM a good review. He doesn't go back to the quad era but is a surround sound-immersive audio fanatic so info on your new one is getting around He's in the tire-kicking phase now but he sounded intrigued as a possible addition to Atmos/DTS-X/Auro3D.

Thanks!

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Hey Chucky (& others)

I don't do daily forum checking like I did yrs ago, so I'd greatly appreciate being brought up-to-date on the latest V2 (V3?) Surround Master. Any changes to the Involve/QS and SQ algorithms since the original? Any improvements to separation & steering?

I admit I sold my original SQ SM about a year ago, thinking my restored Sansui QRX9001 (original owner from '78), QSD1 & Tate decoders were all I needed. But I'm having a twinge of new interest + upgraditis, depending on what the new unit does vs. the old one. And I'm beginning to consider getting the new version depending...on what you and others can tell me

I know some of the folks have probably done exhaustive comparisons of the V2/V3 to Sansui, Audionics/Fosgate-Tate gear as well as vs. the orig SM/SQ version. In a nutshell, are we talking about equal performance or something audibly better?

Finally what's the supply & shipping status now? If I ordered this month, realistically when could I expect delivery to Atlanta?

Also I have a good friend on the AVSForum, who knows I'm an old quadraphile, called me asking if I knew about Involve and the Surround Master. He had heard it mentioned by one of his audio-buddies. Needless to say I gave the original SM a good review. He doesn't go back to the quad era but is a surround sound-immersive audio fanatic so info on your new one is getting around He's in the tire-kicking phase now but he sounded intrigued as a possible addition to Atmos/DTS-X/Auro3D.

Thanks!

This other thread on the Surround Master might whet your appetite about it's capabilities from users here. Perhaps you could guide your friend to this forum / Involve threads as well.

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...g-with-the-surround-master.20908/#post-256851

 

[The Quadfather]

Hey Chucky (& others)

I don't do daily forum checking like I did yrs ago, so I'd greatly appreciate being brought up-to-date on the latest V2 (V3?) Surround Master. Any changes to the Involve/QS and SQ algorithms since the original? Any improvements to separation & steering?

I admit I sold my original SQ SM about a year ago, thinking my restored Sansui QRX9001 (original owner from '78), QSD1 & Tate decoders were all I needed. But I'm having a twinge of new interest + upgraditis, depending on what the new unit does vs. the old one. And I'm beginning to consider getting the new version depending...on what you and others can tell me

I know some of the folks have probably done exhaustive comparisons of the V2/V3 to Sansui, Audionics/Fosgate-Tate gear as well as vs. the orig SM/SQ version. In a nutshell, are we talking about equal performance or something audibly better?

Finally what's the supply & shipping status now? If I ordered this month, realistically when could I expect delivery to Atlanta?

Also I have a good friend on the AVSForum, who knows I'm an old quadraphile, called me asking if I knew about Involve and the Surround Master. He had heard it mentioned by one of his audio-buddies. Needless to say I gave the original SM a good review. He doesn't go back to the quad era but is a surround sound-immersive audio fanatic so info on your new one is getting around He's in the tire-kicking phase now but he sounded intrigued as a possible addition to Atmos/DTS-X/Auro3D.

Thanks!

I replaced my burned out Audionics Space and Image Composer with the Surround Master V3. It does a good job with QS and SQ, I have never had QS capability, The Surround Master provides it. It's at least equal to the Audionics for SQ, Superior for QS since the Audionics never provided QS capability, and where it really shines is it's stereo processing in QS mode. Since many of my favorite recordings were only issued in stereo, that's a big plus. I loved the Audionics, and this decoder nicely fills it's place.

The Quadfather

 

[chucky3042]

Hey Chucky (& others)

I don't do daily forum checking like I did yrs ago, so I'd greatly appreciate being brought up-to-date on the latest V2 (V3?) Surround Master. Any changes to the Involve/QS and SQ algorithms since the original? Any improvements to separation & steering?

I admit I sold my original SQ SM about a year ago, thinking my restored Sansui QRX9001 (original owner from '78), QSD1 & Tate decoders were all I needed. But I'm having a twinge of new interest + upgraditis, depending on what the new unit does vs. the old one. And I'm beginning to consider getting the new version depending...on what you and others can tell me

I know some of the folks have probably done exhaustive comparisons of the V2/V3 to Sansui, Audionics/Fosgate-Tate gear as well as vs. the orig SM/SQ version. In a nutshell, are we talking about equal performance or something audibly better?

Finally what's the supply & shipping status now? If I ordered this month, realistically when could I expect delivery to Atlanta?

Also I have a good friend on the AVSForum, who knows I'm an old quadraphile, called me asking if I knew about Involve and the Surround Master. He had heard it mentioned by one of his audio-buddies. Needless to say I gave the original SM a good review. He doesn't go back to the quad era but is a surround sound-immersive audio fanatic so info on your new one is getting around He's in the tire-kicking phase now but he sounded intrigued as a possible addition to Atmos/DTS-X/Auro3D.

Thanks!

Hi ss9001

My comments are extremely biased, a habitual liar, my father was a dodgy used car salesman (saw him one in my life in court) and should not be taken as the truth!!!

The SM 2b as it has become known as has the following enhancements

1 Metal box, looks better runs a lot cooler!
2 Has knobs to adjust all levels independently
3 Has improved buffering internally
4 Has a wider dynamic range due to an improved negative rail generator (Dave the Bitch and I are convinced it sounds better but have not done conclusive tests yet).
5 Has switching between all modes and you do not have to frig around with wiring of the RCA's and restart like the SM V1
6 Has QS (Involve)/ SQ/ TSS modes as standard

The decode is the same as the original

Delivery should be around 4 weeks, we are running a tad low on stock.

Regards

Chucky

 

[jaybird100]

Hi ss9001

My comments are extremely biased, a habitual liar, my father was a dodgy used car salesman (saw him one in my life in court) and should not be taken as the truth!!!

The SM 2b as it has become known as has the following enhancements

1 Metal box, looks better runs a lot cooler!
2 Has knobs to adjust all levels independently
3 Has improved buffering internally
4 Has a wider dynamic range due to an improved negative rail generator (Dave the Bitch and I are convinced it sounds better but have not done conclusive tests yet).
5 Has switching between all modes and you do not have to frig around with wiring of the RCA's and restart like the SM V1
6 Has QS (Involve)/ SQ/ TSS modes as standard

The decode is the same as the original

Delivery should be around 4 weeks, we are running a tad low on stock.

Regards

Chucky

Sounds like you're doing a pretty brisk business with these things, Chucky. From my impression, having used mine now for a few weeks, it's the last decoder anyone will ever need. I was playing some oldies this morning that were DES stereo, and they sounded amazing through the QS 4.0 mode. Actually, I haven't found anything yet that didn't sound great through the SM. Good on you blokes!

 

[chucky3042]

Sounds like you're doing a pretty brisk business with these things, Chucky. From my impression, having used mine now for a few weeks, it's the last decoder anyone will ever need. I was playing some oldies this morning that were DES stereo, and they sounded amazing through the QS 4.0 mode. Actually, I haven't found anything yet that didn't sound great through the SM. Good on you blokes!

We luv's ya to!!

 

[rareed]

does the new SM do any better on dyanaco disks I have one that when the anouncer talks from the back of the room he is only on the right when he was in the center with EV and QS

 

[rareed]

well I i am happy with my original SM wih one exception I cant tell what mode its in from across the room

 

[The Quadfather]

If you like the original SM, you'll love the new one. Put your old one up for sale and take the plunge.

 

[raku]

I sent the same email to David on August 3rd and 9th, but there was no reply.
Is he unable to reply because of the lockdown?

Re[6]: non-delivery Order #1998: Surround Master order
A new one has not arrived yet.
When and from what carrier did you ship the new package?
Can I track the package?

 

[chucky3042]

I sent the same email to David on August 3rd and 9th, but there was no reply.
Is he unable to reply because of the lockdown?

Re[6]: non-delivery Order #1998: Surround Master order
A new one has not arrived yet.
When and from what carrier did you ship the new package?
Can I track the package?

Hi Raku

Yes I heard about this today - Dave discussed it with me. He is trying to track the failed delivery. Meanwhile we are sending a replacement one to you. I will ask its status and report back to you tomorrow.

Dave was in surgery last week on his lower back and is only 30 % functional this week, I think that was the problem in communication.

Talk soon

 

[chucky3042]

Hi Raku

Yes I heard about this today - Dave discussed it with me. He is trying to track the failed delivery. Meanwhile we are sending a replacement one to you. I will ask its status and report back to you tomorrow.

Dave was in surgery last week on his lower back and is only 30 % functional this week, I think that was the problem in communication.

Talk soon

Just got the reply from Dave :

Fixed it today. I booked it with DHL, it gets collected here tomorrow and he should have it by next Monday. With any luck he will get email updates, but I'll email him the tracking number anyway once it's gone.