Opeth - Pale Communion 5.1 (Blu-ray)

[Coren]

Good to hear about the sound. Haven't received it yet in NL, but will be soon I assume.

I'm from Belgium, and personally, I haven't even received a shipment (or backorder) confirmation (though I did get the order confirmation after redeeming my code). I'll be a bit more patient and start worrying sometime next week!

 

[foxx1337]

Got it in Germany yesterday. Made the account to post these. L&R seem ok, but I don't know about lfe (I'm not an expert in waveforms and I only have stereo to "see with my own eyes"): http://imgur.com/DzfvvJu,ppJr9JZ,eAWstgC,eaPjz6p (4 images in the album, from within the disc)

 

[colsky]

Has anyone in the UK received their replacement disc yet? I had an email on Friday 3rd to say it had shipped, but nothing here yet

My replacement arrived in today's post. It was just a disc, but was in a big box! Hopefully will get a chance to listen to later.

 

[John S]

Got mine last week. SO happy with the way Warner handled this. I bought mine at Best Buy. Imagine trying to return it there: Explaining the phase reversal issue to the customer service person, and receiving a blank stare in return....

 

[lolbroek]

Received an e-mail that said it had shipped on Oct. 2nd but still haven't received anything... I've sent them an e-mail asking if they can provide more info or a tracking number.

 

[Beelz]

So, is there any visual way of telling whether a disc is the corrected version or not?

K

Well, not exactly. I'm aware some people had ripped the disc and posted the wav forms. The only other way is loading the disc in a computer and looking at the date/time of the files. These would be when the authoring house compiled the disc for replication. Mine state 7/03/2014 at 2:08pm. I would assume if there's a new version, it would have a more recent date. Probably a few days after the initial consumer errors were reported.

Just got my replacement. I can't tell the difference by looking at it! (haven't played it yet!) but by comparing in a blu-ray computer drive, there are differences

Original defective copy:
2014-07-03, 17:08, 10 860 625 920 bytes, 10.1 Go

Replacement copy:
2014-09-02, 16:15, 10 744 758 272 bytes, 10.0 Go

 

[Robert van Diggele]

My replacement disc was deliverd yesterday at one of the neighbours, as I was not at home. Picked it up today. i only listended to the stereo because my MCH amp is disconnected for the time being.

 

[rusinurbe]

Mine arrived in an oversized box direct from Roadrunner on saturday. Single Blue ray in a papersleeve, inside a box which would have comfortably held two fat Boy jewel cases, Must have cost a fortune in postage !!

 

[foxx1337]

I think this version has the LFE phase shifted by 180 degrees. Can anyone confirm / infirm it? I'm looking at the waveforms in Reaper and they're inverted for LFE as opposed to L/R, SL/SR.

http://imgur.com/eaPjz6p
http://imgur.com/eAWstgC
http://imgur.com/ppJr9JZ
http://imgur.com/DzfvvJu

 

[Thonolan]

Have to say the label print work on the replacement disc is atrocious though. Looks faded (the gold print lettering of the original looks like a dirty beige on the new disc) and is completely off center too. Looks like a rushed job (which it was), but the sound is the main thing.

Yeah, it's pretty bad indeed. But the original defective disc wasn't much better, mine was equally off center as well.

The replacement disc arrived today. I didn't find the time to listen to the whole thing yet, but listened to a few specific parts and sounds great to me now. Finally a balanced sound with powerful bass/drums.

 

[Thonolan]

I think this version has the LFE phase shifted by 180 degrees. Can anyone confirm / infirm it? I'm looking at the waveforms in Reaper and they're inverted for LFE as opposed to L/R, SL/SR.

http://imgur.com/eaPjz6p
http://imgur.com/eAWstgC
http://imgur.com/ppJr9JZ
http://imgur.com/DzfvvJu

Yeah it looks like that to me... @:

 

[Plan9]

What?! they forgot to invert the LFE phase as well on the corrected Blu-Ray?!

 

[Simon_LDT]

Surely this one isn't messed up too...? @:

 

[Cheezmo]

So this is the "fixed" disc? Kind of hard to tell from your images, but if they neglected to fix the LFE. Wow.

I think this version has the LFE phase shifted by 180 degrees. Can anyone confirm / infirm it? I'm looking at the waveforms in Reaper and they're inverted for LFE as opposed to L/R, SL/SR.

http://imgur.com/eaPjz6p
http://imgur.com/eAWstgC
http://imgur.com/ppJr9JZ
http://imgur.com/DzfvvJu

 

[bktouchstone]

My corrected disc sounds very good. The bass sounds very full too. Wish I hadn't so hastily thrown out the original disc so I could a/b it.

 

[boxhead]

Mine arrived in Australia today direct from La Vergne Tennessee (in the big box). Got the shipping notice on 2nd Oct and it arrived on the 15th. Great service Warner/Roadrunner - particularly because, as I stated earlier, this was a local purchase.

 

[Thonolan]

My corrected disc sounds very good. The bass sounds very full too. Wish I hadn't so hastily thrown out the original disc so I could a/b it.

I did and there's an easily noticeable difference, now the 5.1 sound with the punch and balance of the stereo mix. Will try later today inverting the phase of the subwoofer to prove if there's still something (audible) with the LFE.

 

[SMS]

I did and there's an easily noticeable difference, now the 5.1 sound with the punch and balance of the stereo mix. Will try later today inverting the phase of the subwoofer to prove if there's still something (audible) with the LFE.

I don't have my corrected disk yet, but the LFE does still look inverted.

If your Front speakers are "large" then the bass cancellation only occurs acoustically in the room. But, if you have them set to "small" then the cancellation happens during bass management, which is likely much more dramatic. You may want to try it both ways.

 

[LizardKing]

Snippets from the Oscilloscope:


Before: .....................And After Inversion:
View attachment 16078 View attachment 16079

Hmmm

And here is the corrected disc:


The LFE is definitely still inverted on the corrected disc......

 

[Simon_LDT]

Oh dear, what a complete mess. How can a professional not spot this for a 2nd time?