C.R.S. it's one of those things where...wait, what was I talking about? Darn.Sorry. Did not know that.
Honestly I can't remember half the stuff said over pages and pages of posts. So sue me.
C.R.S. it's one of those things where...wait, what was I talking about? Darn.Sorry. Did not know that.
Build quality for one thing.I can't imagine what this player offers at almost 6x the cost of a new Sony X800M2 for $300?
I'm sure the Panasonic 9000 is also a high quality player but since it doesn't play SACD or DVD-A that knocks it off the buy list IMO.
$$Build quality for one thing.
Yes that also for sure. I'm also pretty sure that if Oppo came out today with a 1k unit people might be saying the same thign, what about the Sony X800M2 for $300?
I could buy into that but as it is the Sony weighs 8 1/2 and has the smoothest, most quiet transport I've experienced and appears to be built like a tank. I still cant imagine what makes itBuild quality for one thing.
If you look closely at the remote there is a “happy ending” button.I could buy into that but as it is the Sony weighs 8 1/2 and has the smoothest, most quiet transport I've experienced and appears to be built like a tank. I still cant imagine what makes it
worth 6x more expensive when it won't off deliver one bit superior audio or video performance.
YMMV
I have heard others say it's not so quiet. Guess it depends on the build one gets. BTW, I believe the Magnetar is around 17 pounds.I could buy into that but as it is the Sony weighs 8 1/2 and has the smoothest, most quiet transport I've experienced and appears to be built like a tank. I still cant imagine what makes it
worth 6x more expensive when it won't off deliver one bit superior audio or video performance.
YMMV
Ach. You young people. Do you think "real" disc players offer better playback? If the same signal travels via HDMI to your AVR, then....what? Of course if you're of a mind that all analog is better, then that's another conversation.I'm 58 and I don't do PC playback, it's all from real disc players. While I hope my Oppo 95 and two Oppo 203s will last to the end of my days, I'm not hopeful. Ball park I want another 30 years out of them and that's a lot to ask even if they were brand new, which they're not.
It's actually that a) I can't be bothered ripping my discs, and b) I don't want a computer in the lounge connected to my AV system. All my playback is over HDMI, no "analogue is better" confusion here. My Oppo 95 was bought to go with a pre HDMI amp, now I have the 95 in the system because it can play SACD-R and iso images from USB stick or hard disc. I also have it set for blu ray region A playback. The 203 in use is set for blu ray region B, and it does gapless playback of FLAC from USB stick or hard disc.Ach. You young people. Do you think "real" disc players offer better playback? If the same signal travels via HDMI to your AVR, then....what? Of course if you're of a mind that all analog is better, then that's another conversation.
I am of course fooling with you Owen!
Well, sort of. I'm in my 70's, so....liberties attached. lol.
You already have at least 2, They're inside your Oppos.I don't want a computer in the lounge connected to my AV system.
There's also a computer in each of the two Freeview HD PVRs, at least one (it's probably multi CPU) in my Arcam AVR31, at least one in the TV, and a couple of micro controllers in the 1999 era S-VHS VCR with digital picture processing. Plus the micro controllers in all the remote controls.You already have at least 2, They're inside your Oppos.
Sorry, I am just seeing this response. My information comes from brief ownership. I should have qualified my statement. On the.Oppo machines, It downgrades DSD to PCM 88.2. However, on the Sony players It downgrades DSD to PCM 176.4. My earlier statement on this matter should mentioned this is only for DSD and surround.I don't know where you are getting your info from but these are the 105s specs
Specs
BD-Live: Yes, 1 GB internal storage
BonusView: Yes, 1 GB internal storage
Firmware Version: BDP10X-38-1220
3D: Yes
Audio Decoding:
Dolby: Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD
DTS: DTS, DTS-HD High Resolution, DTS-HD Master Audio
Other: 7.1 PCM up to 192/24, 5.1 DSD
HDMI Video Resolutions:
480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i/ 1080p/1080p24, 3D frame-packing 720p/1080p24, 4K x 2K
In addition, if it did down sample, why would it go to 88.2 instead of 96 kHz? 88.2kHz is the typical DSD to PCM conversion sample rate.
I don't know but I have never heard analog outs on a player that beats the D/A converter in a processor.What current Universal Players have 5.1 or 7.1 RCA analog outs like the Oppo?
The Magnetar UDP900 does. Not cheap, far from it.What current Universal Players have 5.1 or 7.1 RCA analog outs like the Oppo?
The DAC in the 205 is an excellent one and returned some of the best measurements tested at Audio Science Review. So it is possible that using the 205s DAC and analog outs you might get a better sounding result. Most of the AVR's we tested did not return DAC results near the 205s.I don't know but I have never heard analog outs on a player that beats the D/A converter in a processor.
Audio Science Review tests of the DACs in current Arcam AVRs showed pretty poor results. Arcam took notice and said "ah, we have it configured wrong" and claim to have fixed it in a firmware updare. But ASR have not re-tested, so we really have no idea where the current Arcam AVRs stand with current firmware. As the owner of an Arcam AVR31 I'm interested, though it sounds fantastic and test results wouldn't change my view of that.Recent AVRs have shown big improvements over the last couple years. Funny how things seem to improve when someone is actually watching the cook.
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