Please post your thoughts and comments on this new Blu-Ray Audio edition of the classic Pearl Jam album "Vitalogy", which features a new Dolby Atmos mix of the album.
HiRez Poll Pearl Jam - VITALOGY [Blu-Ray Audio (Dolby Atmos)]
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Played the Atmos mix on my 5.1 system. This turned out much better than the Atmos for Dark Matter, which sounds muddy and unbalanced. Giving it a 9 for how well the instrumentation was placed in the surround field. Fidelity was good, the sonic qualities of the original were retained but everything was clean and present. There isn't a lot of movement of instruments/real time panning, the strategy here was clearly to execute an immersive "in the room with the band" feel and it succeeded at that. I'm not sure Pearl Jam's music lends itself to tricks or fun with surround, so IMO that was the right choice (and probably the right choice for most rock music).
I liked that they gave the short and/or oddball tracks the same level of attention, I rather enjoyed Bugs, Aye Davanita, and Hey Foxy... in their surround form ['skippable' filler for me until now].
I liked that they gave the short and/or oddball tracks the same level of attention, I rather enjoyed Bugs, Aye Davanita, and Hey Foxy... in their surround form ['skippable' filler for me until now].
Received this last week in a packet listed as from "Santa's Halper" at the Ten Club.
Listened to the Atmos mix ripped to 7.1 FLAC in my car.
Nice, immersive mix that suits the material pretty perfectly. This is a pretty uneven album with some killer, some meh, and some filler. The mix nicely layers some of the vocal overdubs around the space. The use of the surround space is always present but never intrusive, and true to the equalization of the original stereo mix -- well done.
10/10 from me.
Listened to the Atmos mix ripped to 7.1 FLAC in my car.
Nice, immersive mix that suits the material pretty perfectly. This is a pretty uneven album with some killer, some meh, and some filler. The mix nicely layers some of the vocal overdubs around the space. The use of the surround space is always present but never intrusive, and true to the equalization of the original stereo mix -- well done.
10/10 from me.
Not voting because I've only heard the streaming version, and in 5.1 at that, but I just hear a surround mix that's too wedded to the stereo original to get excited about... and I was really excited when those mixes came out. They didn't even take Ed's "Can't find a better man!/Can't find a betterman.." call-and-response at the end of the song and move the response part into the surrounds; no, it's just in the fronts. You could completely cut every channel except L and R and you really don't miss anything that isn't drowned out by the fronts anyway.
It doesn't sound bad, it just does disappointingly little to elevate the material over a $1 copy of the EK 66900 CD.
It doesn't sound bad, it just does disappointingly little to elevate the material over a $1 copy of the EK 66900 CD.
In Atmos, that response vocal is in the front left height speaker.
Well, that's why I'm not voting if I can't hear the Atmos as intended. But good to know, TY!
Well, it's better than Dark Matter, but I just don't get these Pearl Jam Atmos releases. I don't know best how to explain this one, but it's just not cohesive enough. Just moving a guitar to the side doesn't do it for me as it does nothing to place where on the "stage" that guitar is supposed to be. It's just not a normal spatial feel that makes me feel as though I'm listening to a band in my room. There are a couple that do sound good, such as Whipping that I am now blasting as I type. A full stage presentation which is very good. I'm giving a 7 because of the few good mixes such as this one.
AudiophileStyle
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I have them in this article - https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/revi...30-gets-released-in-truehd-dolby-atmos-r1316/
Is the stereo DR from the Bluray or the HD download?
AudiophileStyle
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I just checked. The blu-ray and HD download are identical.
I don't know for certain who did this Atmos mix. I'm assuming it was Adam Kasper. It certainly sounds like his work after listening to Badmotorfinger and Temple of the Dog prior to Vitalogy There is certainly a surprising placement of drums, guitar, bass, and room sound from one song to the next-most notably in the center channel. Kasper is certainly experimenting more even if that only occassionally succeeds. Guitars are rooted in the surround sides with the drums and bass mostly assigned to the front left/right/center channels. Slightly surprising is Kasper's decision not to assign Ed Ved's vocals to the center channel for the majority of songs. Ballads do get the center channel treatment. When not in the center, Vedder's vocals are a bit muffled.
My biggest complaint is the lack of soundstage. I believe soundstage is the most salient feature that can elevate a mix into being great. I thought Kasper finally cleared this hurdle with his Temple of the Dog mix (still his best effort)...maybe going from 5.1 to Atmos has thrown a bend in the road? This Atmos mix sounds like a bunch of individual pieces that only partially congeal into a unified three dimensional whole. Maybe this has to do with the recording quality or remaster? IMHO, this mastering is good but should have been better. It does have a digital-y hardness about it. Ironic, given Vedder's professed love of vinyl and presumedly analog sound as well. Maybe it's the tactile quality of vinyl he's taken with?
For those of you who don't think there are not enough instruments to do something spectacular with Vitalogy, I disagree. Go check out Appetite for Destruction, Temple of the Dog, and Love Muscle (quad), which have a similar number of instruments and outdo this mix.
I really hope Pearl Jam continues to release more of their back catalog in Atmos I just wish they would let a new mixer like Stephen W. Taylor, Simon Heyworth, or Elliott Scheiner go for the brass ring.
Vitalogy is a noisier album than I remember. Perhaps, that's the biggest revelation of this Atmos version.
Album: 8.0
Atmos Mix: 7.0
My biggest complaint is the lack of soundstage. I believe soundstage is the most salient feature that can elevate a mix into being great. I thought Kasper finally cleared this hurdle with his Temple of the Dog mix (still his best effort)...maybe going from 5.1 to Atmos has thrown a bend in the road? This Atmos mix sounds like a bunch of individual pieces that only partially congeal into a unified three dimensional whole. Maybe this has to do with the recording quality or remaster? IMHO, this mastering is good but should have been better. It does have a digital-y hardness about it. Ironic, given Vedder's professed love of vinyl and presumedly analog sound as well. Maybe it's the tactile quality of vinyl he's taken with?
For those of you who don't think there are not enough instruments to do something spectacular with Vitalogy, I disagree. Go check out Appetite for Destruction, Temple of the Dog, and Love Muscle (quad), which have a similar number of instruments and outdo this mix.
I really hope Pearl Jam continues to release more of their back catalog in Atmos I just wish they would let a new mixer like Stephen W. Taylor, Simon Heyworth, or Elliott Scheiner go for the brass ring.
Vitalogy is a noisier album than I remember. Perhaps, that's the biggest revelation of this Atmos version.
Album: 8.0
Atmos Mix: 7.0
Nope, it was Josh Evans and Nick Rives.
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