Steven Wilson Pink Floyd - Live at Pompeii - Steven Wilson mix - May 2nd 2025

[Owen Smith]

Pooh's name definitely doesn't travel. Massive in Italy and South America.

Tigger on drums would be awesome.

 

[schubser]

You are confused!
The Early Years was a bastardization of the original film. This new release is presented in the original running order of the film.

Yep. You're right. ;-) Yesterday I've listened to the Early Years 5.1 Mix. It's really bad at all, but I thought this was the correct running order. Pre-orded the new BD disc.

 

[AudiophileStyle]

Presuming they're all fed identical audio for encoding, that DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD and LPCM are digitally identical upon decoding is a statement of fact, unlike 'we prefer DTS' which is an opinion. There's no need to be condescending to people who take the time to reply to yoru queries, even if it isn't the response you were looking for.

Can you be more specific about what you mean by digitally identical? I can extract all versions and compare them with a null test to show the digital difference if that helps.

 

[Owen Smith]

Can you be more specific about what you mean by digitally identical? I can extract all versions and compare them with a null test to show the digital difference if that helps.

If they're different then a different LPCM master was used to encode them. DTS HD MA and Dolby True HD are lossless, you get the same LPCM out on decode as was put in on encode.

 

[AudiophileStyle]

If they're different then a different LPCM master was used to encode them. DTS HD MA and Dolby True HD are lossless, you get the same LPCM out on decode as was put in on encode.

This is probably a discussion best left for another thread, outside of Pink Floyd.

You believe that a TrueHD Atmos mix rendered to 5.1 will be identical to a DTS HD MA mix rendered to 5.1?

We are talking apples and oranges here. Completely different processes. We aren’t talking about zipping and unzipping a file to get a file without losses.

 

[Owen Smith]

You believe that a TrueHD Atmos mix rendered to 5.1 will be identical to a DTS HD MA mix rendered to 5.1?

I never said anything about Atmos and I am aware that extracting the height channels from the 7.1 True HD is not and cannot be lossless. But if I had meant Atmos or DTS X I would have said so.

We aren’t talking about zipping and unzipping a file to get a file without losses.

That is exactly what I'm talking about. DTS HD MA and Dolby True HD are precisely zip style compression systems.

EDIT: This all started with the question "Is the 5.1 Dolby or DTS". Note specifically the 5.1 mix, clearly nothing to do with the separate Atmos mix:

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...ven-wilson-mix-may-2nd-2025.37201/post-838478

 

[AudiophileStyle]

I never said anything about Atmos and I am aware that extracting the height channels from the 7.1 True HD is not and cannot be lossless. But if I had meant Atmos or DTS X I would have said so.

That is exactly what I'm talking about. DTS HD MA and Dolby True HD are precisely zip style compression systems.

EDIT: This all started with the question "Is the 5.1 Dolby or DTS". Note specifically the 5.1 mix, clearly nothing to do with the separate Atmos mix:

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/fo...ven-wilson-mix-may-2nd-2025.37201/post-838478

Ah. Tough to follow things. We can make this easy. I’ll get 5.1 versions of the same album in TrueHD and DTS and null test them. No sense in using only partial information.