I voted yes. But I really don’t want separate CDs. I’m fine with a CD layer on SACD, and a stereo track on video media.
What, no piano roll?Let's make them separate editions. Hey you know what? Then we can put a unique bonus track on each edition so super fans have to buy all of them. Let's sell them 8 copies of the same album!
Wait, that went a different direction...
Alright, let's put everything together then! Have to include vinyl. Probably some 45rpm vinyl singles too, right? Hey, let's also give them a 4 single sided 45rpm edition of the album! We should put an 8-track tape in there. Should we do a wire recording too? Bluray, DVDA, DVDV, CD, SACD. It'll be a bargain for only $4999!
Now let's talk about if we're including an actual full fidelity mastering of the album or if this is going to be a novelty edition with a lo-fi 'volume war' or 'streaming' style mastering of the album. Yes, that's right! We're thinking of not including the full quality audio anywhere in the set! (Might want to sell an upgrade later, you know!)
Am I doing this right?
Sounds like the third response option is the one for you.I voted yes. But I really don’t want separate CDs. I’m fine with a CD layer on SACD, and a stereo track on video media.
I edited the thread title to make it more explicit, but the first post should make it quite clear:So do you mean to say: 'Do you want a CD included with your surround sound disc purchase'?
Should CDs be included with Blu-rays and DVDs, and should SACDs be hybrid with a CD layer?
I'm not sure that adding a CD (or CD's) makes the package more attractive to more people,. And if so, who are these people? Maybe a fan, but a fan would buy anything and everything! They're certainly not people who only have a CD player.They can add a CD for very little and make the package attractive to more people and thus more sales.
Thanks for that update, I have revoted and I see that five others have done the same so far.I just added a new poll response option to account for this. Anyone can change their response at any time.
What doesn't make sense, exactly?
Bandwidth is not a problem with Blu-ray. It's not a problem to downsample to save storage space (although storage is now very cheap) or for compatibility. I've started downsampling the Rhino "Quadios" to 96K as my computer was having trouble properly playing more than two channels at 192K. I don't notice any difference in sound quality, but still I'm glad to get the Quadio's in this ultra (192K) hi-rez format.If it's 192 (talking about you, Rhino), I downsample it to something less wasteful of storage and bandwidth.
It's really no difference than when an artist has a deluxe edition of the CD where there is another CD with 2 songs that didn't make the album and a couple of live songs or outtakes. If you are a collector of music (not necessarily just a fan of the band) you will always pay $5 more for the deluxe edition with the extra stuff.I voted yes, even though I have yet to listen to the CD in these deluxe CD/BluRay packages. I’m about to release a hi-res stereo/5.1/Dolby Atmos Bluray and am packaging it with a CD in hopes that it might inspire some folks to eventually go to surround. Interestingly, the Deluxe version of the latest Mary Fahl album that I produced outsells the CD only version by about 5 to 1, and a good percentage of the people that buy the Deluxe version at shows don’t have a BluRay player “yet.”
Hmm... Sometimes, but not always. I remember when I got my CD of Richard and Linda Thompson's "Shoot Out the Lights," which I originally bought on vinyl. As you know if you're an RT fan, this is a perfect album that should not be messed with in any way. It's short, but that's OK. Most artists don't make that much truly great music in a lifetime. For whatever reason, they added a track to the CD reissue ("Living in Luxury"). It annoyed me every time I heard it (back when I used physical CDs), because the album was already perfect, and this track made it worse.It's really no difference than when an artist has a deluxe edition of the CD where there is another CD with 2 songs that didn't make the album and a couple of live songs or outtakes. If you are a collector of music (not necessarily just a fan of the band) you will always pay $5 more for the deluxe edition with the extra stuff.
Music collectors are anal. I should know, I am a collector. And I believe most others here are too (or were at one time). You've all just forgotten your past.
Forget about multi-channel, streaming and downloading, blu-rays and sacds. Think back to when CDs were the shit (pre 2000). If there was a deluxe edition of a release what would you have ordered?
Just because there are other ways to consume and store and manipulate digital music so that you don't need the stinking CD (or any physical media for that matter), doesn't mean that there aren't a significant number of people out there who still want the deluxe version just because they are anal collectors.
It was always nice to get a few bonus tracks, especially when they were singles and B sides that were not included in the original album. These bonus discs we see a lot of now contain things like stereo re-mixes (seldom better than the original), demos mixes and live stuff that I really don't care a lot about. The other thing is that they are now usually brickwalled, sounding terrible on any decent system.Forget about multi-channel, streaming and downloading, blu-rays and sacds. Think back to when CDs were the shit (pre 2000). If there was a deluxe edition of a release what would you have ordered?
If you don't like the extra bonus tracks, burn your own CD disc (or rip to tracks) without them!Hmm... Sometimes, but not always. I remember when I got my CD of Richard and Linda Thompson's "Shoot Out the Lights," which I originally bought on vinyl. As you know if you're an RT fan, this is a perfect album that should not be messed with in any way. It's short, but that's OK. Most artists don't make that much truly great music in a lifetime. For whatever reason, they added a track to the CD reissue ("Living in Luxury"). It annoyed me every time I heard it (back when I used physical CDs), because the album was already perfect, and this track made it worse.
I understand where you are coming from, I feel the same way about Black Sabbath adding "Evil Woman" to their debut album. Whether you like the song or not, it does not fit on that album. It's a menacing, dark album and "Evil Woman" is neither. It really jars you out of the mood.Hmm... Sometimes, but not always. I remember when I got my CD of Richard and Linda Thompson's "Shoot Out the Lights," which I originally bought on vinyl. As you know if you're an RT fan, this is a perfect album that should not be messed with in any way. It's short, but that's OK. Most artists don't make that much truly great music in a lifetime. For whatever reason, they added a track to the CD reissue ("Living in Luxury"). It annoyed me every time I heard it (back when I used physical CDs), because the album was already perfect, and this track made it worse.
Guess someone agreed with you, since the Ryko/Rhino Handmade CD remaster omitted it (but added a 2nd CD of great live material). Of the three digital versions of SOtL that I own, which includes the SACD, the Rhino version sounds the best by a significant margin: whatever they did in remastering it, I'm glad someone was willing to 'mess with it'. It isn't just the bonus disc and booklet that makes it worth acquiring.Hmm... Sometimes, but not always. I remember when I got my CD of Richard and Linda Thompson's "Shoot Out the Lights," which I originally bought on vinyl. As you know if you're an RT fan, this is a perfect album that should not be messed with in any way. It's short, but that's OK. Most artists don't make that much truly great music in a lifetime. For whatever reason, they added a track to the CD reissue ("Living in Luxury"). It annoyed me every time I heard it (back when I used physical CDs), because the album was already perfect, and this track made it worse.