Rhino Quadios - Batch 7 - Speculation

[quicksrt]

Jeff! It's not good enough. We really need Mathis in some form of high-resolution format. I've been waiting for this, and it keeps NOT happening.

Maybe Sony has him on their “untouchables” A-List! There was a time when he was Columbia’s best selling artist.

But that was a loooong time ago. I’d think they would be willing to license his stuff to the right label.

Could there be too high a financial risk?

 

[GOS]

Maybe Sony has him on their “untouchables” A-List! There was a time when he was Columbia’s best selling artist.

But that was a loooong time ago. I’d think they would be willing to license his stuff to the right label.

Could there be too high a financial risk?

Hard for me to say. Johnny is one of my all-time favorite artists, so it really hurts to think he's high risk (in terms of return)
I keep thinking of all those "odd ball" titles that Vocalion releases and they seem to always land on their feet. Do they ever sell out? I have no clue, but seems all titles are always for sale. My God, I'd think that there would be a massive JM following waiting for some better-quality releases.

 

[key_wiz]

Maybe Sony has him on their “untouchables” A-List! There was a time when he was Columbia’s best selling artist.

But that was a loooong time ago. I’d think they would be willing to license his stuff to the right label.

Could there be too high a financial risk?

I know "Johnny's Greatest Hits" (one of the first greatest hits compilation LPs) and his first Christmas album were big sellers for them, but that was over 60 years ago. While Columbia has certainly stood by him ever since he returned to the label in the late 60s, most of his albums didn't even crack the top 100, nor has he had any legit hit singles (with the exception of that disco-y duet with Denice Williams in '78) since then.

So hard to see how he'd be on any "untouchable" list, but then again --it is also odd that DV hasn't touched him. He does seem a perfect artist for them to reissue. So

BTW, how many quads did he have?

Unfortunately, they'd all have obviously been from the early/mid 70s, when he was mired in the typical easy-listening-singer trap common at the time of covering other artists recent big hits.

 

[4-earredwonder]

I know "Johnny's Greatest Hits" (one of the first greatest hits compilation LPs) and his first Christmas album were big sellers for them, but that was over 60 years ago. While Columbia has certainly stood by him ever since he returned to the label in the late 60s, most of his albums didn't even crack the top 100, nor has he had any legit hit singles (with the exception of that disco-y duet with Denice Williams in '78) since then.

So hard to see how he'd be on any "untouchable" list, but then again --it is also odd that DV hasn't touched him. He does seem a perfect artist for them to reissue. So

BTW, how many quads did he have?

Unfortunately, they'd all have obviously been from the early/mid 70s, when he was mired in the typical easy-listening-singer trap common at the time of covering other artists recent big hits.

Johnny Mathis QUADs. AFAIK, Only THE FIRST TIME EVER I SAW YOUR FACE was released as a DTS~CD in the early 00's

JOHNNY MATHIS -
I'm Coming Home. Columbia CQ-32435 (SQ), CAQ-32435 (DQ8)
I'm Stone In Love With You B/W I'm Coming Home. Columbia JBQ-504 (SQ45)
{Special Coin Operator release}
In Person. Columbia [2 LP] GQ-30979 (SQ), GAQ-30979 (Q8), CBS/Sony SOPL-22
Love Story. CBS/Sony SOPL-34003 (SQ) [Japan]
Me & Mrs. Jones. Columbia CQ-32114 (SQ), CAQ-32114 (Q8)
Song Sung Blue. Columbia CQ-31626 (SQ), CAQ-31626 (Q8), CBS/Sony SOPN-46
(SQ) [Japan]
The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face. Columbia CQ-31342 (SQ),
CAQ-31342 (Q8), CBS/Sony SOPN-36 (SQ) [Japan], CBS CQ-31342 (SQ)
[Yugoslavia]
When Will I See You Again. Columbia PCQ-33420 (SQ), CAQ-33420
(DQ8)
You've Got a Friend. Columbia CQ-30740 (SQ), CAQ-30740 (Q8),
CBS/Sony SOPL 9 (SQ) [Japan],

 

[gvl_guy]

Could it possibly have something to do with the fact he's still alive? Maybe he has final say about his releases and has no interest.

He's one of those classic artists that, IMHO, should have had a resurgence like Tony Bennett. (Then again, Lady Gaga was the one to really bring him back into the spotlight.) There have been a few others whose names escape me right now, but it's happened.

 

[4-earredwonder]

Could it possibly have something to do with the fact he's still alive? Maybe he has final say about his releases and has no interest.

He's one of those classic artists that, IMHO, should have had a resurgence like Tony Bennett. (Then again, Lady Gaga was the one to really bring him back into the spotlight.) There have been a few others whose names escape me right now, but it's happened.

Current Johnny Mathis is

1. 
   Johnny Mathis / Age
   89 years
   Sep 30, 1935

 

[Uncle Obscure]

Could it possibly have something to do with the fact he's still alive? Maybe he has final say about his releases and has no interest.

He's one of those classic artists that, IMHO, should have had a resurgence like Tony Bennett. (Then again, Lady Gaga was the one to really bring him back into the spotlight.) There have been a few others whose names escape me right now, but it's happened.

Lady Gaga played a big role at the end of Tony's career, but well before that, Tony returned to prominence and was introduced to a whole new generation of fans in 1993 when his son, Danny Bennett, began executive producing for him. Bennett's Steppin' Out album (with its stripped down, scaled back, scat jazz vibes) was a sensation and was quickly followed up by a cleverly, savvy marketing campaign that resulted in a Tony Bennett MTV Unplugged concert in 1994. MTV Unplugged was all the rage at the time and Bennett's special changed the trajectory of his career from that point on. The amazing thing about Bennett's Unplugged special is that it was performed in almost in the exact same way that the Steppin' Out album was recorded. If anything the live performance was more "plugged" than "unplugged." It made no difference. Tony Bennett officially became hip again. What followed over the next few decades was a series of new solo and duets albums (k.d.Lang, Diana Krall, etc.) that further cemented his musical legacy.

 

[key_wiz]

Current Johnny Mathis is

1. 
   Johnny Mathis / Age
   89 years
   Sep 30, 1935

and still performing!

 

[key_wiz]

Could it possibly have something to do with the fact he's still alive? Maybe he has final say about his releases and has no interest.

anything's possible when it comes to the music business, it seems.

Although (correct me if I'm wrong, of course) but I don't recall most of his 70s catalog ever being released on CD by CBS/Sony, but instead some of them were licensed to small reissue labels like Real Gone and often released as cheapy-twofers.

While presumably Columbia still controls those titles, as they have continued to release Mathis compilation CDs over the years, it doesn't seem anyone is THAT precious about them. I suppose it could be Johnny has some say and has some objection to the quad mixes (although he certainly seemed OK with them at the time as so many of his titles were released in quad) but it also seems logical that he'd like see his catalog get some new life and maybe even make a buck or two in the process as well.

 

[4-earredwonder]

I can recall fondly when I DJed my sister's SWEET SIXTEEN Party [I was 12], at the request of her giddy guests I played Johnny Mathis in Heavy Rotation and to everyone's face it brought

https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervi...6181FEFA9CC2C5F4B93F6181FEFA9CC2C&FORM=WRVORC

 

[fizzywiggs41]

No idea who holds rights to Stanley Clarke, but i would certainly love me some.

According to a search done for Stanley Clarke albums in quad....the closest it came to be was a " to be done in quad " type of thing , ...on a Nemporer/Atlantic album. I forget which one but it was mid 70's.

So that was that , but maybe the task could be renewed???
The possibility is there , providing all the stakeholders are on board.

 

[GOS]

According to a search done for Stanley Clarke albums in quad....the closest it came to be was a " to be done in quad " type of thing , ...on a Nemporer/Atlantic album. I forget which one but it was mid 70's.

So that was that , but maybe the task could be renewed???
The possibility is there , providing all the stakeholders are on board.

Stanley Clarke in surround would be epic. He's the freaking man...

 

[JDeanB]

According to a search done for Stanley Clarke albums in quad....the closest it came to be was a " to be done in quad " type of thing , ...on a Nemporer/Atlantic album. I forget which one but it was mid 70's.

So that was that , but maybe the task could be renewed???
The possibility is there , providing all the stakeholders are on board.

Nemperor moved to Columbia/Epic in the late 70s (Andy Pratt's Motives from 1979, I believe, was distributed by CBS). The Romantics were on Nemperor/Columbia/Epic Did the Nemperor albums from the Atlantic days stay with WEA?

 

[key_wiz]

Nemperor moved to Columbia/Epic in the late 70s (Andy Pratt's Motives from 1979, I believe, was distributed by CBS). The Romantics were on Nemperor/Columbia/Epic Did the Nemperor albums from the Atlantic days stay with WEA?

I don't believe so. Albums like Stanley Clarke's "Journey To Love" moved to Columbia/Epic in 1978 along with the label and has remained an Epic title ever since Nemperor was folded into Epic in the 80s

 

[quicksrt]

According to a search done for Stanley Clarke albums in quad....the closest it came to be was a " to be done in quad " type of thing , ...on a Nemporer/Atlantic album. I forget which one but it was mid 70's.

So that was that , but maybe the task could be renewed???
The possibility is there , providing all the stakeholders are on board.

That was I believe the “School Days” album. Said to be mixed in quad yet unissued.
It is imo a peak period - key album from Clarke. It would be a quite a treat for fans of fusion.

 

[quicksrt]

Sony need to do their own quad series independent of the Japanese 7” SACD series. The 7” series has been amazing and most of them I rate highly. But the slow rollout of releases is just too slow. There does not seem to be any indication that Stanley Clarke or Johnny Mathis are in the running either.

I wonder what comes after Santana?