Yeah, thanks, star quad has been dismissed on many forums for being a bit too rolled off, but necessary for high noise (pro/outdoor, etc) areas. I may end up with longer runs of my Belden/Neutrik combo, but currently leaning toward Mogami Silver for the long runs, and Grimm TPR/Neutrik for the fronts. If I use a balanced switcher (like Kal's Coleman 7.1 sw) then I'll use db25 snakes of something (Seismic?) for the shorter multichannel runs, and the Grimms for my 2 channel stuff.