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I thought the band's performance was excellent, especially Supper's Ready IMO. Not impressed with the 5.1 mix. Thank goodness we have Steve & Djabe's Live in Gyor. I think that is a fantastic mix.
STEVE HACKETT - FOXTROT AT FIFTY + HACKETT HIGHLIGHTS: LIVE IN BRIGHTON (Blu-Ray out in September!)
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Oh no, double stereo.
It was done by an unknown engineer for me: Chris Lord-Alge??? He doesn't live up to his name...
I will know for sure this week.
It was done by an unknown engineer for me: Chris Lord-Alge??? He doesn't live up to his name...I will know for sure this week.
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Watched upto foxtrot , am very happy so far, looks good, sounds great
Oh no, double stereo.
I will know for sure this week.
From his website:
https://www.chrislordalge.com/
Yes I have seen his portfolio, and like you, I don't know what to think of this but it helps me understand that he did this kind of mix.
My Amazon link say’s currently unavailable and only lists as 3 CD, no Blu Ray?
We've (sort of) gone over this. See posts 9 through 18 on p. 1 of this thread.
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Mine is being delivered on Monday from AmazonUS so I'll let you know ..... It was under $20 delivered!
It does not appear to be as vile in 5.1.
foobar2000 1.6.16 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2023-09-17 08:10:17
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Analyzed: Steve Hackett / Foxtrot At Fifty + Hackett Highlights (DTS-HD MA 24bit 48kHz 5.1 2023 bluray release)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR12 -6.16 dB -26.29 dB 0:58 01-Introduction, Ace Of Wands
DR12 -0.38 dB -17.20 dB 7:21 02-The Devil's Cathedral
DR12 -0.38 dB -16.31 dB 7:22 03-Spectral Mornings
DR13 -0.46 dB -16.93 dB 7:12 04-Every Day
DR12 -0.36 dB -15.01 dB 7:34 05-A Tower Struck Down
DR12 -0.40 dB -18.01 dB 6:43 06-Basic Instincts
DR12 -0.38 dB -15.67 dB 8:31 07-Camino Royale
DR12 -0.39 dB -16.63 dB 12:04 08-Shadow Of The Hierophant
DR13 -0.37 dB -17.58 dB 8:27 09-Watcher Of The Skies
DR15 -0.37 dB -17.52 dB 5:10 10-Time Table
DR14 -0.39 dB -18.39 dB 8:40 11-Get 'em Out By Friday
DR14 -0.39 dB -17.53 dB 6:24 12-Can-Utility And The Coastliners
DR12 -3.68 dB -24.86 dB 2:36 13-Horizons
DR13 -0.36 dB -17.58 dB 30:00 14-Supper's Ready
DR12 -0.40 dB -17.04 dB 9:50 15-Firth Of Fifth
DR12 -0.38 dB -18.17 dB 3:40 16-(drum solo)
DR13 -0.38 dB -16.47 dB 9:08 17-Los Endos
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Number of tracks: 17
Official DR value: DR13
Samplerate: 48000 Hz
Channels: 6
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 4069 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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foobar2000 1.6.16 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2023-09-17 08:10:17
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Analyzed: Steve Hackett / Foxtrot At Fifty + Hackett Highlights (DTS-HD MA 24bit 48kHz 5.1 2023 bluray release)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR12 -6.16 dB -26.29 dB 0:58 01-Introduction, Ace Of Wands
DR12 -0.38 dB -17.20 dB 7:21 02-The Devil's Cathedral
DR12 -0.38 dB -16.31 dB 7:22 03-Spectral Mornings
DR13 -0.46 dB -16.93 dB 7:12 04-Every Day
DR12 -0.36 dB -15.01 dB 7:34 05-A Tower Struck Down
DR12 -0.40 dB -18.01 dB 6:43 06-Basic Instincts
DR12 -0.38 dB -15.67 dB 8:31 07-Camino Royale
DR12 -0.39 dB -16.63 dB 12:04 08-Shadow Of The Hierophant
DR13 -0.37 dB -17.58 dB 8:27 09-Watcher Of The Skies
DR15 -0.37 dB -17.52 dB 5:10 10-Time Table
DR14 -0.39 dB -18.39 dB 8:40 11-Get 'em Out By Friday
DR14 -0.39 dB -17.53 dB 6:24 12-Can-Utility And The Coastliners
DR12 -3.68 dB -24.86 dB 2:36 13-Horizons
DR13 -0.36 dB -17.58 dB 30:00 14-Supper's Ready
DR12 -0.40 dB -17.04 dB 9:50 15-Firth Of Fifth
DR12 -0.38 dB -18.17 dB 3:40 16-(drum solo)
DR13 -0.38 dB -16.47 dB 9:08 17-Los Endos
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Number of tracks: 17
Official DR value: DR13
Samplerate: 48000 Hz
Channels: 6
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 4069 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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Attachments
That's better. But the rear channels do seem to be pretty much identical to the front channels just at a lower volume.
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Received mine today and have listened to the first 4 tracks in 5.1. First impressions: video is excellent and sound quality seems very good - very crankable with no harshness and deep, deep bass and all instruments very well represented. Too early to fully evaluate the surround mix, but so far seems very immersive if a bit front heavy - which seems appropriate for a live concert. The 'The Devil's Cathedral' was a standout with strong keyboard runs appearing prominently in the surrounds making everything sound huge. Looking forward to the rest of it - definitely an excellent follow-up to the Selling England at Hammersmith release.
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Can you do the same with the STEREO TRACK from the Blu-ray? Thanks.
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There is no 3cd version but only 2cd with blu-ray or 2 dvd
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My FOXTROT set arrived TODAY from AmazonUS and it was indeed a 2 RBCD/BD~V set for $17.98. Just checked ImportCD's prices and they want $32 + s/h and it's still listed as a pre order!
Am spinning RBCD 1 and the sound is amazing! Can't wait to fire up the BD~V!
He prefers quantity over quality because his surround mix on the Hackett release doesn't bring anything.
Sorry; only just saw this post.
As below; and attached of Every Day from Audacity.
foobar2000 1.6.16 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2023-09-17 08:10:43
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Analyzed: Steve Hackett / Foxtrot At Fifty + Hackett Highlights (LPCM 24bit 48kHz 2.0 2023 bluray release)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR11 -9.13 dB -25.34 dB 0:58 01-Introduction, Ace Of Wands
DR12 -1.51 dB -16.42 dB 7:21 02-The Devil's Cathedral
DR11 -1.22 dB -15.47 dB 7:22 03-Spectral Mornings
DR12 -1.12 dB -16.19 dB 7:12 04-Every Day
DR11 -1.19 dB -14.21 dB 7:34 05-A Tower Struck Down
DR11 -1.57 dB -17.34 dB 6:43 06-Basic Instincts
DR12 -1.30 dB -14.93 dB 8:31 07-Camino Royale
DR11 -0.75 dB -15.99 dB 12:04 08-Shadow Of The Hierophant
DR12 -2.29 dB -16.70 dB 8:27 09-Watcher Of The Skies
DR12 -2.85 dB -17.33 dB 5:10 10-Time Table
DR13 -2.41 dB -17.94 dB 8:40 11-Get 'em Out By Friday
DR12 -2.47 dB -17.08 dB 6:24 12-Can-Utility And The Coastliners
DR14 -8.78 dB -25.13 dB 2:36 13-Horizons
DR12 -2.09 dB -17.40 dB 30:00 14-Supper's Ready
DR12 -1.76 dB -16.65 dB 9:50 15-Firth Of Fifth
DR12 -2.20 dB -17.55 dB 3:40 16-(drum solo)
DR11 -1.64 dB -15.97 dB 9:08 17-Los Endos
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Number of tracks: 17
Official DR value: DR12
Samplerate: 48000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1638 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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Attachments
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Thank you, Stupy. Very interesting. So, the Stereo Track from the Blu-ray reflects what we all hear in the Youtube videos from InsideOut. Blu-ray look and sound like Chris Lord-Alge nice mix without horrible Mastering by Ted Jensen. No idea why they mastered the CDs...
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For me, the big draw on live concert videos is the video footage of the band/artist in action. Sound-only live concerts are never that interesting to me. The video footage on Foxtrot is excellent, with a great mix of wide band/stage shots and ultra clear individual closeups. Definitely better than what you'd see from virtually any seat in the venue. Next in importance is the performance. As with all the Genesis Revisited shows, the technical performance is virtually flawless, giving listeners what amounts to a near studio level run-through of the material. The production/sound quality is also excellent, with every instrument well represented and deep bass present but not overwhelming, and no harshness.
As others have noted, the surround mix is nothing special - there is little or no panning, directionality or specific instrument isolation in the side/rear channels. Rather, it is a mostly ambient mix that does succeed in making the soundstage seem huge. This type of front heavy surround mix is pretty common for live shows, and isn't something I particularly mind as it's probably a pretty good representation of what you'd actually hear in the venue.
We're pretty lucky to have Steve Hackett and his excellent band keep alive the early Genesis material with this level of musicianship and sound quality. Looking forward to the next one in the series - reportedly focusing on the Lamb Lies Down...
As others have noted, the surround mix is nothing special - there is little or no panning, directionality or specific instrument isolation in the side/rear channels. Rather, it is a mostly ambient mix that does succeed in making the soundstage seem huge. This type of front heavy surround mix is pretty common for live shows, and isn't something I particularly mind as it's probably a pretty good representation of what you'd actually hear in the venue.
We're pretty lucky to have Steve Hackett and his excellent band keep alive the early Genesis material with this level of musicianship and sound quality. Looking forward to the next one in the series - reportedly focusing on the Lamb Lies Down...
Ditto on live material requiring the video to go with it. I hardly ever listen to just the live music by itself.
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