What Do You Think The Next Rhino Quadio Title Will Be?
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I suspect the issue there is that Rhino may not be interested in licensing titles when they still have so many they control which haven't been released. I think D-V would be the obvious choice to try to do these.
And if Joni is still in a bad mood about reissued formats (like she certainly was), then they could grab a Bette or Carly quad album in the place. Joni won't be a roadblock forever. And if it's just too late for Jackson's sky, then they could turn up the rock heat and give us a rock gem or two. The two Purples are there. Lots in them there Warner vault library to choose from.
Oh hell, they know we want Billion Dollar Babies pretty badly. Now that would be the best selling Quadio that they had issued.
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The Doobies QUADIO boxset will be only the second Quadio set in addition to Chicago released by RHINO so I'd rather D~V get a crack at the SONY/RCA catalogue since they've released well over 100 QUAD RCA/SONY SACDs in the past few years.
I was hoping SONY Japan would've released those CORE Santana albums by now in special 7" packaging or as a box set but alas NOT!
While I'd love to finally get a listenable version of the quad mix (both the CD-4 LP and Q8 are horrid examples of their respective formats), would there really be that much interest in that one? The album itself comes off as pretty dated today, in my opinion at least.
Rhino don't control the Hi Records catalogue, afaik its someone/thing called "Fat Possum"?
i'm sure steelydave can confirm the Al Green Quads' status, what's the score Dave?
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Fat Possum is a nice vinyl label but I don't know that they do anything with surround.
They started a s a blues label in Mississippi (IIRC) but have picked up some rootsy rock artists too. I have a reissue of a Townes Van Zandt album they did and it's really well done.
Yeah, that's right - they're a "big indie" that originally started out in the 90s as a label that specialised in making records with previously-unrecorded blues artists (R. L. Burnside was really the one that put them on the map) but they've kind of broadened their repertoire in the last 10 years or so to include many other styles of music, and also buying older catalogs as a lot of their old blues guys have passed away.
They definitely own all the Al Green recordings, but I'm not sure about the rest of the Hi catalog (at least as it pertains to quad) - recent CD reissues of Ann Peebles I Can't Stand the Rain have been licensed from Fat Possum, but Syl Johnson's Back for a Taste of Your Love is licensed from the Demon Music Group in the UK. I'm not sure where this leaves the highly-desirable Ace Cannon quads, which seem to have never been reissued on CD at all.
Over on sh.tv someone asked Shane the Intervention Records guy about doing Al Green reissues and he said that the guarantee (ie the number of albums you have to pay for in advance) to license those recordings from Fat Possum was prohibitively expensive for him, so I don't know where that leaves D-V. They're certainly aware of them (I provided them with a spreadsheet of quad masters held by independent labels some years back) so I'm sure they'd do them if it was feasible.
I don't know about other people, but I'm not chomping at the bit for them from a surround perspective - admittedly I haven't heard all of the Al Green quads, but my recollection is that they're mixed a lot like the Greatest Hits DVD-A (all done by the same guy, Al Green's producer Willie Mitchell) with a lot of "double stereo" elements and a handful of discrete ones. Solid mixes, and classic albums, sure but not show-offs for the potential of surround mixing.
I actually A/B'd the Greatest Hits DVD-A with the quad reel not long ago and was surprised to find that I preferred the DVD-A. The quad mixes are, as you say, pretty conservative - Al's vocal is in all four corners, and there's not much going on in the rears other than bass guitar and backing vocals. The 5.1 mixes have Al more to the front and stuff like horns, guitars, and percussion mostly in the rears. The DVD-A booklet credits Michael Frandelli and Steve Genewick for the 5.1 mix.
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Well, over the past 10 years we've gotten exactly THREE Quadio releases. Two right out of the gate with the promise of 20+ more squashed by a corporate reorganization, and the amazing Chicago Box. Since it's fairly certain we'll get a fourth release this September (but the way 2020 is going, who the hell knows what else is going to happen by then), that's 4 in a decade.
That, to me, would indicate that there is not a lot of interest in putting this stuff out. We can obviously figure that if ForagingRhino had his way, there would be a lot more than 4 releases over the past 10 years, but it takes a lot more than one guy to make it happen.
What puzzles me is that WEA originally had no issue with AF releasing their stuff, and we're glad they didn't as the "Spectrum" SACD alone was worth the connection, but why won't WEA UK connect with D-V for some slam dunks? I mean, who else is going to do this stuff if WEA won't do it themselves?
That, to me, would indicate that there is not a lot of interest in putting this stuff out. We can obviously figure that if ForagingRhino had his way, there would be a lot more than 4 releases over the past 10 years, but it takes a lot more than one guy to make it happen.
What puzzles me is that WEA originally had no issue with AF releasing their stuff, and we're glad they didn't as the "Spectrum" SACD alone was worth the connection, but why won't WEA UK connect with D-V for some slam dunks? I mean, who else is going to do this stuff if WEA won't do it themselves?
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Which is EXACTLY what I've been saying for the past few years. But NOT at $30K a pop for licensing/royalty fees, as bmoura has stated they charged Audio Fidelity for the 'privilege!'
And why hasn't Warner/Japan 'stepped up' having only released 8 classic Warner Titles on multi~ch SACD formerly released as MLP DVD~A 5.1s and NO FORMER QUAD releases which were NEVER COMMERCIALLY RELEASED on hi res digital formats! And to support the format, I even re~purchased them all even though I owned the MLP DVD~A 5.1s!
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Which were the two right out of the gate?
Edit: After a moment to think I'm guessing Aretha GH was one, but can't come up with the other.
CTA?
Same mix as the version in the Quadio box, but with a different--and in my opinion, better--mastering by @Bob Vosgien
https://www.discogs.com/The-Chicago-Transit-Authority-Chicago-Transit-Authority/release/3309463
Might the Doors Perception box be included in the count?
And not a "Quadio" technically, but Rhino did give us the Best of the Doors disc in their "Singles" set as well.
But it does seem there are lot of good titles out there that could be released as single discs. Will probably depend quite a bit on how well this Doobies set sell. But with such a tiny market for physical product these days, I would think our little niche must be looking tastier and tastier?
But it does seem there are lot of good titles out there that could be released as single discs. Will probably depend quite a bit on how well this Doobies set sell. But with such a tiny market for physical product these days, I would think our little niche must be looking tastier and tastier?
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