2015 Surround Predictions/Wishlist

[atrocity]

I know I'm beating a very dead horse - but I guess there is NO way to get Piper At The Gates Of Dawn in hi-rez surround is there?

Even the stereo mix is missing elements that made it to the mono. Though I guess that's not fatal these days. For one thing, weren't they able to digitally separate some of the merged Beatles elements? For another, most people are going to be more familiar with the stereo mix and might not even care.

 

[atrocity]

Even the stereo mix is missing elements that made it to the mono.

P.S.: This is definitely an album for the "stereo sounding good in quad" thread. I've played it though a Tate (now sadly deceased) in its non-SQ surround mode as well as a Surround Master in Involve mode and loved both.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

I don't know how much of an improvement you would get video wise by releasing these titles on Blu-Ray as I think they were both filmed on Standard Def video as opposed to film. They would probably be like a lot of these so-called "SD Blu-Rays" from Eagle Rock where you would get lovely High-Res audio, but video-wise things would look about the same as they did on DVD.

It just depends on which Pink Floyd and who would be doing the project...for instance I had Live At Pompeii on Laser Disc( I believe Gos had this one too)and it was good..it was a combination of film bits from various sources and if you want to compare the generic process used by Eagle Rock on the SD/blu rays to what Criterion does on these projects it's quite different and the results achieved by Criterion are usually much much better and more involved that Eagle Rock's process...If you are talking about Delicate Sound of Thunder it was shot in 16mm with Arriflex Cameras and Lenses and with the right company doing the job..mainly Criterion...it could look spectacular..IF the negatives are still intact..it was never released on DVD...

I'd just love to have some of these treasures be given the right treatment and use the modern technology at hand to expose more people to them...my dream has been THE WALL(the movie)being done by Criterion...that would be awesome...

 

[GOS]

Man, I totally agree. Pulse would be killer....Pompeii would be killer....oh man. Pompeii is one of my all time favorites...and yes, I had that disc.

It just depends on which Pink Floyd and who would be doing the project...for instance I had Live At Pompeii on Laser Disc( I believe Gos had this one too)and it was good..it was a combination of film bits from various sources and if you want to compare the generic process used by Eagle Rock on the SD/blu rays to what Criterion does on these projects it's quite different and the results achieved by Criterion are usually much much better and more involved that Eagle Rock's process...If you are talking about Delicate Sound of Thunder it was shot in 16mm with Arriflex Cameras and Lenses and with the right company doing the job..mainly Criterion...it could look spectacular..IF the negatives are still intact..it was never released on DVD...

I'd just love to have some of these treasures be given the right treatment and use the modern technology at hand to expose more people to them...my dream has been THE WALL(the movie)being done by Criterion...that would be awesome...

 

[GOS]

Refrase.... I still have that disc. Though, it is at my buddies house as he still has laser player.

Man, I totally agree. Pulse would be killer....Pompeii would be killer....oh man. Pompeii is one of my all time favorites...and yes, I had that disc.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Refrase.... I still have that disc. Though, it is at my buddies house as he still has laser player.

You should make a point of visiting your friend and watching that again...I bet it would be a whole different perspective...

 

[GOS]

Yes, and now he has a monster projection screen. Whoa...

You should make a point of visiting your friend and watching that again...I bet it would be a whole different perspective...

 

[rtbluray]

It just depends on which Pink Floyd and who would be doing the project...for instance I had Live At Pompeii on Laser Disc( I believe Gos had this one too)and it was good..it was a combination of film bits from various sources and if you want to compare the generic process used by Eagle Rock on the SD/blu rays to what Criterion does on these projects it's quite different and the results achieved by Criterion are usually much much better and more involved that Eagle Rock's process...If you are talking about Delicate Sound of Thunder it was shot in 16mm with Arriflex Cameras and Lenses and with the right company doing the job..mainly Criterion...it could look spectacular..IF the negatives are still intact..it was never released on DVD...

I'd just love to have some of these treasures be given the right treatment and use the modern technology at hand to expose more people to them...my dream has been THE WALL(the movie)being done by Criterion...that would be awesome...

Well I thought you were specifically talking about just "Delicate Sound of Thunder" and "PULSE".
I absolutely agree that "Live at Pompeii" and "The Wall" (feature movie) would be great titles for a Blu-Ray release, and if "Delicate Sound…" was shot on film, then that one would probably be very good too.
And I know all about the wonders of Criterion owning many of their releases, my favorite being their release of "A Hard Day's Night".

 

[timothyemerson]

A Delicate Sound of Thunder BD would be awesome. I much prefer that concert to Pulse (yawn). 16mm should look OK too (Romper Stomper was shot on 16mm and the BD looks OK). As long as they get the sound right, I'll be happy.

 

[splinter7]

Interesting that you have Marillion's Radiation on your list. What did you think of it? I think that (surround wise) it is slightly better than Sounds That Can't Be Made. The Afraid Of Sunlight concert in that Breaking Records set is pretty darn good in my opinion - amazing concert performance, and good 5.1 mix too, which was a nice surprise.

Sadly it is probably the best 5.1 mix of the band’s studio output to date and it is still lackluster. The rears do not seem to be balanced well against the fronts. Aside from a few effects being discretely placed in the rears, the surround seems to be just be an extension of the stereo.

I just don’t get it. Here is a band that creates awesomely layered & effects driven music who seem to care less on how 5.1 can open up and expand that creation. Even though their contemporaries have (to a degree) embraced the format to their benefit, Marillion seems aloof to it.

The band’s longtime producer, Michael Hunter, obviously seems to have some kind of affection for 5.1 but I feel that he just doesn’t “get” what today’s surround enthusiasts feel a good multi-channel mix should sound like.

Just my opinion but it all comes across as afterthought. Hunter messes around with creating a surround mix on the side – not really as a commissioned project. In an attempt to half appease a vocal minority in their minority fan base, they throw these 5.1 mixes onto special edition releases. I just do not feel the band particularly cares or has any iota of interest in the format.

It just baffles me given that throughout their history they have worked with talent recognized in surround field:
Steve Wilson – Produced and mixed cuts on several albums
Nick Davis – Produced, engineered & mixed on several albums
Simon Heyworth – Mastered a large part of their modern releases
+ to some degree Chris Kimsey

You think they could have had some kind of conversation or insight from these guys.

 

[kap'n krunch]

It just depends on which Pink Floyd and who would be doing the project...for instance I had Live At Pompeii on Laser Disc( I believe Gos had this one too)and it was good.....

I STILL have it on Laser Disc and spin it regularly...

 

[skherbeck]

Lindsey Buckingham - Out of the Cradle
Boston - Boston
The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
Radiohead - In Rainbows
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Yes - 90125

 

[GOS]

Lindsey Buckingham - Out of the Cradle
Boston - Boston
The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
Radiohead - In Rainbows
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Yes - 90125

Ohhhh - Iron Maiden...used to be one of my favorite bands...I still love watching them live. Personally, I think I'd like Piece Of Mind in hi-rez.....but would take Powerslave as well.

 

[skherbeck]

Piece of Mind would also be great! So far, the quality of metal offerings in surround (that I've heard) aren't too good (I gave Metallica's Black Album a 7, Megadeth's Peace Sells a 7, Iron Maiden's Dance of Death a 5, and Black Sabbath's Paranoid a 5). I'd also love to get a discrete mix of "Rust in Peace" by Megadeth!

 

[JanBakker]

Piece of Mind would also be great! So far, the quality of metal offerings in surround (that I've heard) aren't too good (I gave Metallica's Black Album a 7, Megadeth's Peace Sells a 7, Iron Maiden's Dance of Death a 5, and Black Sabbath's Paranoid a 5). I'd also love to get a discrete mix of "Rust in Peace" by Megadeth!

Yes! Hangar 18 in surround would be a treat, guitar solo's all around you :51banana:

 

[skherbeck]

With all th prog fans in this forum, I never hear much about Kansas... How about Point of No Return, Leftoverture, or Song for America remixed in surround? ( I can't remember if Song for America is the name of an album, but that song is amazing!)

 

[Cibola]

With all th prog fans in this forum, I never hear much about Kansas... How about Point of No Return, Leftoverture, or Song for America remixed in surround? ( I can't remember if Song for America is the name of an album, but that song is amazing!)

Collective amnesia? I'm definitely in for some Kansas in surround.

 

[rtbluray]

With all th prog fans in this forum, I never hear much about Kansas... How about Point of No Return, Leftoverture, or Song for America remixed in surround? ( I can't remember if Song for America is the name of an album, but that song is amazing!)

If any Kansas albums were going to be mixed and released in surround, next year would be the year to kick things off with the 40th anniversary of "Leftoverture".

In the meantime, be sure to check out their new documentary "Miracles out of Nowhere" on Blu-Ray (if you haven't already)
It's not a discrete surround mix by any means, but the film is fantastic, and a must have for any Kansas fan!

 

[fredblue]

Some of their stuff pans out well in PLII

Edit: Kansas, I mean

 

[skherbeck]

More classics for my surround wishlist:

Wishbone Ash- Argus
Thin Lizzy- Jailbreak
Zebra- Zebra
Big Country- The Crossing