Snarky Puppy's 2015 Magnum Opus, 'Sylva' (with the Metropole Orkest) is coming in Atmos

[mandrix]

Sylva is the best jazz/fusion disc I've bought this year. Or maybe longer. Might be the best disc thus far in 2024, period. For a live recording in the Genre it rivals Djabe.
Seriously, though, for me this ranks as one of the top surround discs of 2024 so far. I realize jazz/fusion ain't for everyone. Can't argue preferences...but mine are wide ranging and jazz will always hold a special place for me.
The band and the orchestral elements are so well integrated that without visuals you wouldn't know one from the other without careful listening and intimate knowledge of the Puppies beyond my meager knowledge..
Absolutely great recording and mixing.

 

[SomethingAnything]

I stumbled upon this on Tidal and remembered that the band is mentioned at times on QQ. Impressive music and mix.

 

[steelydave]

So all the stereo masterings of this new mix - the CD, the hirez (48/24) download and the stereo track on the Blu-Ray - use the same smashed (DR6) mastering.

I wanted a decent-sounding version of this new mix for my portable music player, and the Atmos mix (unsurprisingly) is not similarly affected. So I used Audiomuxer (Tools -> Audio Conversion -> tick 'Remix: To Stereo', h/t to @sjcorne for this) to extract a 48/24 stereo FLAC from my ripped .mkv. Then I used @HomerJAU 's Music Media Helper 8's Chapter Editor function (Open the original video .mkv, save .cue file) to generate a .cue file - moved the cue file into the same folder as the FLAC, edited the .cue file in Windows Notepad and changed the extension of the file it was pointing at from .mkv to .flac (so it was referencing the .flac I'd generated instead of the .mkv) and saved my changes. Opened the .cue file in Foobar, and voila I have the whole downmixed stereo album in 48/24 with track markers. Then I exported that from Foobar (select all, right click, pick 'Convert' chose my FLAC option) and I have individual flac files for each song.

I'm sure the downmixed Atmos isn't identical to the dedicated stereo track (truthfully I haven't listened to it all the way through, but spot checking it, it sounded pretty good) and it doesn't include the two bonus/alternate tracks, which are stereo-only on the Blu-Ray sadly, but the differences in DR are striking enough to make it worth exploring, at the very least, I think:

Original stereo mix:
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Analyzed: Metropole Orkest/Snarky Puppy / Sylva (Remixed & Remastered)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR6 -0.30 dB -10.61 dB 3:33 01-Sintra - Live From Dordrecht, Het Energiehuis / 2014 (Remixed & Remastered)
DR6 -0.30 dB -8.02 dB 6:02 02-Flight- Live From Dordrecht, Het Energiehuis / 2014 (Remixed & Remastered)
DR6 -0.30 dB -9.03 dB 6:13 03-Atchafalaya - Live From Dordrecht, Het Energiehuis / 2014 (Remixed & Remastered)
DR6 -0.30 dB -10.02 dB 15:04 04-The Curtain - Live From Dordrecht, Het Energiehuis / 2014 (Remixed & Remastered)
DR5 -0.30 dB -7.13 dB 4:33 05-Gretel - Live From Dordrecht, Het Energiehuis / 2014 (Remixed & Remastered)
DR6 -0.30 dB -9.59 dB 19:29 06-The Clearing - Live From Dordrecht, Het Energiehuis / 2014 (Remixed & Remastered)
DR7 -0.30 dB -10.74 dB 14:40 07-The Curtain - Live From Dordrecht, Het Energiehuis / 2014 (Bonus Version)
DR7 -0.30 dB -9.91 dB 6:10 08-The Clearing - Live From Dordrecht, Het Energiehuis / 2014 (Bonus Version)
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Number of tracks: 8
Official DR value: DR6
Samplerate: 48000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1666 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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My Atmos downmix:
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Analyzed: Snarky Puppy & Metropole Orkest / Sylva (48/24 2024 Stereo Downmix)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR13 -4.78 dB -22.77 dB 3:36 01-Sintra
DR13 -4.23 dB -21.37 dB 6:03 02-Flight
DR15 -3.39 dB -21.80 dB 6:13 03-Atchafalaya
DR14 -3.13 dB -22.16 dB 15:04 04-The Curtain
DR12 -6.44 dB -23.00 dB 4:32 05-Gretel
DR16 -0.09 dB -21.74 dB 19:29 06-The Clearing
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Number of tracks: 6
Official DR value: DR14

Samplerate: 48000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 1490 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================

 

[anibal]

So all the stereo masterings of this new mix - the CD, the hirez (48/24) download and the stereo track on the Blu-Ray - use the same smashed (DR6) mastering.

I wanted a decent-sounding version of this new mix for my portable music player, and the Atmos mix (unsurprisingly) is not similarly affected. So I used Audiomuxer (Tools -> Audio Conversion -> tick 'Remix: To Stereo', h/t to @sjcorne for this) to extract a 48/24 stereo FLAC from my ripped .mkv. Then I used @HomerJAU 's Music Media Helper 8's Chapter Editor function (Open the original video .mkv, save .cue file) to generate a .cue file - moved the cue file into the same folder as the FLAC, edited the .cue file in Windows Notepad and changed the extension of the file it was pointing at from .mkv to .flac (so it was referencing the .flac I'd generated instead of the .mkv) and saved my changes. Opened the .cue file in Foobar, and voila I have the whole downmixed stereo album in 48/24 with track markers. Then I exported that from Foobar (select all, right click, pick 'Convert' chose my FLAC option) and I have individual flac files for each song.

I'm sure the downmixed Atmos isn't identical to the dedicated stereo track (truthfully I haven't listened to it all the way through, but spot checking it, it sounded pretty good) and it doesn't include the two bonus/alternate tracks, which are stereo-only on the Blu-Ray sadly, but the differences in DR are striking enough to make it worth exploring, at the very least, I think:

I really appreciate the Atmos downmix tip. I think I'll try it with more than 4 records .
I would love to get this but the shipping costs to my place are u$d 148 (????!!!!!).
It looks like everyone is happy with the mix, right? I am curious on why nobody voted in the poll.

 

[humprof]

Dropping this here, as it's the most recent "Snarky Puppy" thread: SP is featured in the season premiere of "Next from the Kennedy Center" tonight, Friday, October 11th, on PBS:
https://www.pbs.org/show/next-kennedy-center/?mc_cid=50523dcd43
https://player.pbs.org/viralplayer/3094831701/

 

[mrcond]

Dropping this here, as it's the most recent "Snarky Puppy" thread: SP is featured in the season premiere of "Next from the Kennedy Center" tonight, Friday, October 11th, on PBS:
https://www.pbs.org/show/next-kennedy-center/?mc_cid=50523dcd43
https://player.pbs.org/viralplayer/3094831701/

Not quite what I was expecting but fantastic nonetheless! If you had told me it was an evening of Afro-Peruvian music, I may have passed, but was completely enthralled by this. What a great band, and so nice to be exposed to music from around the world.

 

[AudiophileStyle]

Is chapter 8 on anyone elses blu-ray only 1 second long?

 

[AudiophileStyle]

Looks like Musicbrainz has different metadata for the blu-ray compared to the CD and streaming version. Such a bummer the blu-ray doesn't match the 8 Atmos tracks that stream.

The CD:

Streaming (All 8 are Atmos):

Blu-ray:

 

[AudiophileStyle]

The actual blu-ray disc says it has all the tracks as the streaming version, but it appears not to.

 

[PurpleMoustache]

The actual blu-ray disc says it has all the tracks as the streaming version, but it appears not to.

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They are available in stereo only under the specials menu iirc. Sadly no Atmos representation on disc for whatever reason

 

[AudiophileStyle]

They are available in stereo only under the specials menu iirc. Sadly no Atmos representation on disc for whatever reason

Thank you! It would've been really helpful if the package said this or if these tracks were in Atmos like the streaming version.

 

[minimumtumbleweed]

Took a chance on the Amazon listing (was $33 CAD when I preordered it back in June). It was listed as just Audio CD but I figured I could return it if it was just a CD. Finally arrived to day and it was in fact a CD/Blu-Ray combo, so that was a happy surprise. Will have to give it a listen soon.

 

[beerking]

Yay, it's finally here.

Gonna give it a blast in a mo

 

[beerking]

I ordered this release in May this year.
6 months is a long time to wait .
But
This release is worth every day of impatiently waiting.
Love me some Snarky Puppy

This is 100 carat gold
It's just jazz fusion at its finest.
Everything about this release sings of passion, musicianship and pure class.

And
Wait to you hear the emotion being used in the beautiful piano playing.

 

[DuncanS]

I ordered this release in May this year.
6 months is a long time to wait .
But
This release is worth every day of impatiently waiting.
Love me some Snarky Puppy

This is 100 carat gold
It's just jazz fusion at its finest.
Everything about this release sings of passion, musicianship and pure class.

And
Wait to you hear the emotion being used in the beautiful piano playing.

I've been waiting for this to appear on this side of the pond. There is no mention of a Blu-Ray but the details say 2 discs.

Is this the one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sylva-Remi...=music&sprefix=snarky+puppy,popular,86&sr=1-1

 

[beerking]

I've been waiting for this to appear on this side of the pond. There is no mention of a Blu-Ray but the details say 2 discs.

Is this the one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sylva-Remixed-Remastered-Snarky-Puppy/dp/B0CXTMYQHT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=WXMTU2IA3QUD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VOyMGu-3hv40aQd_bZ7-GsBr1d_hXOiKQ-nWg4DNpDFESzBB2HCWeSyWOJB-fzllxZD3aaF7tsU1br-WHF5Ong936Z-2aoBR_C6pSJJLcrR6ifQEhYEm1Rm5pQnSIVr6DAn8ZSpY10iVqTEhOsFWCYIUvsLQWjGZfe5xkWG9kfpMOTfNxugTiH0XCrRg86ub6zFhpUgcpuUx60vVBMYHfw.pZWoTb3D_8In99tCHqXFFrDweCkgxEgjQ1hDfpux1uI&dib_tag=se&keywords=Snarky+Puppy&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1731620820&s=music&sprefix=snarky+puppy,popular,86&sr=1-1
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Yep, that's the one....
Although cheaper on Rarewaves
https://www.rarewaves.com/products/0198391487934-sylva-remixed-remastered?variant=41546197893217

 

[DuncanS]

Yep, that's the one....
Although cheaper on Rarewaves
https://www.rarewaves.com/products/0198391487934-sylva-remixed-remastered?variant=41546197893217

Ordered

 

[svengaleekie]

I've been waiting for this to appear on this side of the pond. There is no mention of a Blu-Ray but the details say 2 discs.

Is this the one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sylva-Remixed-Remastered-Snarky-Puppy/dp/B0CXTMYQHT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=WXMTU2IA3QUD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VOyMGu-3hv40aQd_bZ7-GsBr1d_hXOiKQ-nWg4DNpDFESzBB2HCWeSyWOJB-fzllxZD3aaF7tsU1br-WHF5Ong936Z-2aoBR_C6pSJJLcrR6ifQEhYEm1Rm5pQnSIVr6DAn8ZSpY10iVqTEhOsFWCYIUvsLQWjGZfe5xkWG9kfpMOTfNxugTiH0XCrRg86ub6zFhpUgcpuUx60vVBMYHfw.pZWoTb3D_8In99tCHqXFFrDweCkgxEgjQ1hDfpux1uI&dib_tag=se&keywords=Snarky+Puppy&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1731620820&s=music&sprefix=snarky+puppy,popular,86&sr=1-1
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Interesting, I've ordered from Amazon but it's coming from Chalkys for £20.21. The one you link to is supplied by ihaveit music. Amazon says I have ordered it, so it must be the same item, but more expensive. I did look on Chalkys site when I ordered but couldn't find it. It's supposed to be delivered this weekend.

 

[anibal]

Yep, that's the one....
Although cheaper on Rarewaves
https://www.rarewaves.com/products/0198391487934-sylva-remixed-remastered?variant=41546197893217

Thanks for this link! Ordered

 

[Guy Robinson]

So am I to understand that the Blu-Ray does not have Dolby ATMOS only stereo?