BIG Blu-Ray Audio drive from Universal Music in 2013

[Owen Smith]

I imagine Bob Ludwig was leant on by either the label or the band (or both) to brickwall it.. maybe not.. either way it's totally nuts, I agree.

Bob Ludwig is notorious for brick walling all of his mixes. The Queen 2011 remasters CDs aren't quite as bad, which is a miracle since they're by Ludwig again.

 

[fredblue]

Shame I've got to work today, seeing as these little beauties arrived this morning...

 

[fredblue]

It's isn't possible to mix DSD, it's a 1 bit stream. It is either present or absent. Your Mancini will have been mixed in some other format, possibly DXD (look it up if you want to know what it is).

You can't mix on the Sonoma Workstation?

This blurb seems to say you can but I personally haven't got a clue so "don't shoot me!" it's just what I'd read before on the subject!

http://www.superaudiocenter.com/images/Sonoma32.pdf

 

[fredblue]

Owen Smith: "Bob Ludwig is notorious for brick walling all of his mixes. The Queen 2011 remasters CDs aren't quite as bad, which is a miracle since they're by Ludwig again."

ah now that would explain why the "Boys & Girls" Super Audio has such Super Loud Audio..!!

 

[fredblue]

I would caution against anyone getting too excited or disappointed until they receive the discs. The information on websites is all-too-frequently lazily copied or inaccurate.

If anyone is eagerly waiting to hear what great surround sound can do on blu-ray, I would unhesitatingly recommend this extraordinary Nordic Sound sampler on 2L.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00274NWZM/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For just a few quid more than an HFPA disc, you get the same set on two dics, one BD-A and one Hybrid SACD. I don't really need both, but anyone wishing to compare formats will find that fun. It's classical music, but it will make your system sing like little else. What is so amazing is not just the capability of the BD-A surround format, but the spectacular quality of the recording. 2L really, really know what they're doing in the studio.

For a similar reason (attention to detail during the recording) the 2004 SACD Ultimate Mancini sounds better than almost any other SACD I have. The re-recording of his music for his 80th birthday was, to quote the sleevenotes: "transferred directly from the original master tapes into 24-channel DSD, where it was mixed for 5.1 entirely in the DSD domain. The result is a sound quality that is superior to the currently accepted multi-channel SACD standard of mixing to a 2nd generation analog tape (which degrades the fidelity), before transferring to DSD."

If that sounds like blah, the quality of the sound and the way the music breathes on that SACD validates their efforts.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultimate-Ma...2780025&sr=1-1&keywords=ultimate+mancini+SACD

I think a big part of the problem is with Universal themselves and their lazy half-arsed efforts with HFPA!

 

[GabeL]

I think a big part of the problem is with Universal themselves and their lazy half-arsed efforts with HFPA!

Fully agree

 

[0tto]

Bob Ludwig is notorious for brick walling all of his mixes. The Queen 2011 remasters CDs aren't quite as bad, which is a miracle since they're by Ludwig again.

i wouldn't expect too good quality on any of Queen's 70th albums. let's face it, they all sonically sux.
quality slightly improved since "The Game".
first issue of ANATO on DVD-A sounds better than second re-issue with DTS but even so, still sonically
pretty bad, comparing to most 5.1 DVD-As of the same timespan with use similar analog tapes source for remixing.

 

[Owen Smith]

i wouldn't expect too good quality on any of Queen's 70th albums. let's face it, they all sonically sux.
quality slightly improved since "The Game".
first issue of ANATO on DVD-A sounds better than second re-issue with DTS but even so, still sonically
pretty bad, comparing to most 5.1 DVD-As of the same timespan with use similar analog tapes source for remixing.

I have all of the original EMI Queen CDs before the remastering craze, and they have much better dynamic range than any of the later efforts with the possible exception of the DVD-A multi channels.

 

[jasong]

got my marvin gaye blu ray in the mail from amazon.uk. sounds fantastic. again as with the other blu rays i've gotten-its clean clear and crisp. played the blu ray and the redbook cd - the redbook sounds muffled. blu ray forever (i hope)

waiting on my exile on main street to arrive. its stange i ordered marving two days after i ordered the stones, the stones was dispatched two days earlier than marvin but marvin showed up first.


how would al stewart year of the cat sound in sourround? or gordon lightfood - sundown?
joni mitchell - blue or court and spark


lets hope they keep making these blu rays. i dont think we'll see a new batch - batch 3 til after xmas.

 

[rusinurbe]

I have two now GRRRR and John Coltrane's 'A Love Supreme'.

The Surprise was that 'A Love Supreme' comes with a host of extras, basically the tracks that made up the deluxe 2 CD edition from about 5 years ago. must find time to listen though it is only stereo

 

[Quad Linda]

Sundown might be my favorite Quad. Quad or not, it is in my 10 favorite albums (out of 20,000.) I'm not aware that Blue was mixed for surround, although it would be a great one. I agree that the Quad of Court & Spark is crying for rerelease or remix. As to the Alan Parsons mix of Year of the Cat, I've heard it and it doesn't disappoint.

how would al stewart year of the cat sound in sourround? or gordon lightfood - sundown?
joni mitchell - blue or court and spark

 

[Caspersozza]

It's isn't possible to mix DSD, it's a 1 bit stream. It is either present or absent. Your Mancini will have been mixed in some other format, possibly DXD (look it up if you want to know what it is).

I claim no technical expertise here - I can only vouch for how great the disc sounds (the very opposite of brickwalled) - but, given that it was an additional audiophile note on the SACD sleeve, it would be most odd if they were lying or didn't know what they were doing.

 

[fredblue]

Sundown might be my favorite Quad. Quad or not, it is in my 10 favorite albums (out of 20,000.) I'm not aware that Blue was mixed for surround, although it would be a great one. I agree that the Quad of Court & Spark is crying for rerelease or remix. As to the Alan Parsons mix of Year of the Cat, I've heard it and it doesn't disappoint.

IIRC Joni Mitchell's "Blue" was announced as an upcoming WEA DVD-A..

 

[fredblue]

IIRC Joni Mitchell's "Blue" was announced as an upcoming WEA DVD-A..

"Blue" DVD-A is listed in the 1st post of this QQ thread:

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/showthread.php?1846-DVD-A-Release-News-updated-7-14-03

 

[fredblue]

I have two now GRRRR and John Coltrane's 'A Love Supreme'.

The Surprise was that 'A Love Supreme' comes with a host of extras, basically the tracks that made up the deluxe 2 CD edition from about 5 years ago. must find time to listen though it is only stereo

Coltrane's on the shopping list, thanks for the info

 

[fredblue]

I claim no technical expertise here - I can only vouch for how great the disc sounds (the very opposite of brickwalled) - but, given that it was an additional audiophile note on the SACD sleeve, it would be most odd if they were lying or didn't know what they were doing.

With you on that, I can't see why Concord would have been so specific on such a big SACD release for them if it was a big fat lie..!? I know they say the best lies always have an element of truth in them but in this instance it'd make no sense!

 

[Robert van Diggele]

I have my first three ordered:
Queen - ANATO
Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
Supertramp - Breakfast in America (at the moment for GBP10.26 at Amazon UK!!!)

 

[fredblue]

I have my first three ordered:
Queen - ANATO
Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
Supertramp - Breakfast in America (at the moment for GBP10.26 at Amazon UK!!!)

Yeay!

Stevie & Supertramp I think will be up to your standards..

(Great price on Supertramp btw! if they were all
£10.26 I'd have the whole lot by now! at £20 I have to be a bit more selective!)

..but Queen in stereo is ok.. and with the 5.1 you better wear ear plugs or keep it very low volume, you don't want to lose your hearing! :yikes

 

[fredblue]

Well, guys and girls.. we have an HFPA winner!

The Lionel Richie "Can't Slow Down" is ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIC!!

Very, very, very highly recommended --- indeed --- the most crankable rock & pop HFPA BDA I've got so far (15), fidelity is mouth-wateringly good!!

More to follow.. though Ella & Louis and Nina Simone aren't doing it for me in quite the same way as Lionel (re: sound quality not content, about half of Lionel is weak/dated whereas Nina/Ella & Satch = timeless... but the sound on Lionel's BDA.. OH THE SOUND.. GUYS..!! my gob is well and truly smacked!!! maybe the whole no compression/no compromise blurb isn't total bullshit after all....

 

[rusinurbe]

Coltrane's on the shopping list, thanks for the info

original album 33 minutes give or take extras 1 hour 17 minutes. Making this I would think one of the longer HFPA discs (Along with GRRRR), Two menus as well main menu, then one for the extras.

All also all 96/24 though I can not verify that with my BR player.