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And predictably, on social media, someone uses that very quote as an opportunity for a gratuitous slag against Atmos:

https://bsky.app/profile/acloserlisten.bsky.social/post/3lfl6lnyoek2m
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I almost can't believe that such lazy zombie dismissals are still shambling witlessly across the landscape in this day and age. And from someone representing a site (A Closer Listen) devoted to reviewing instrumental ambient, electronic, experimental, modern composition, and "soundscape" musics, yet--among the genres best suited to immersive mixing. Talk about malice aforethought. You'd think they'd be curious enough to listen with open ears; seek out some artists, mixers, fans and listeners who actually do "care about Atmos"; and weigh some of the technological, aesthetic, and commercial nuances of the issue, rather than indulge their knee-jerk "feelings" that Atmos (and, for that matter, quad) is merely a cynical "gimmick" that no one asked for. Even one ostensible defender resorts to the old "two ears = two channels" canard.
 
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And predictably, on social media, someone uses this as an opportunity for a gratuitous slag against Atmos:
https://bsky.app/profile/acloserlisten.bsky.social/post/3lfl6lnyoek2m

I almost can't believe that such lazy zombie dismissals are still shambling witlessly across the landscape in this day and age. And from someone representing a site (A Closer Listen) devoted to reviewing instrumental ambient, electronic, experimental, modern composition, and "soundscape" musics, yet--among the genres best suited to immersive mixing. Talk about malice aforethought. You'd think they'd be curious enough to listen with open ears; seek out some artists, mixers, and listeners who actually do "care about Atmos"; and weight some of the technological, aesthetic, and commercial nuances of the issue, rather write off Atmos (and, for that matter, quad) as merely a commercial "gimmick" that no one asked for. Even the ostensible defender resorts to the old "two ears = two channels" canard.
i'm glad i barely do social media anymore so i only have to endure the minimum of mad rantings by brain-dead vegetables such as that plonker.
 
And predictably, on social media, someone uses that very quote as an opportunity for a gratuitous slag against Atmos:

https://bsky.app/profile/acloserlisten.bsky.social/post/3lfl6lnyoek2m
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I almost can't believe that such lazy zombie dismissals are still shambling witlessly across the landscape in this day and age. And from someone representing a site (A Closer Listen) devoted to reviewing instrumental ambient, electronic, experimental, modern composition, and "soundscape" musics, yet--among the genres best suited to immersive mixing. Talk about malice aforethought. You'd think they'd be curious enough to listen with open ears; seek out some artists, mixers, fans and listeners who actually do "care about Atmos"; and weigh some of the technological, aesthetic, and commercial nuances of the issue, rather than indulge their knee-jerk "feelings" that Atmos (and, for that matter, quad) is merely another cynical commercial gimmick that no one asked for. Even one ostensible defender resorts to the old "two ears = two channels" canard.
Stereo purists are weird.

I get the "Oh they expect us to buy everything again for their new format" argument... but anyone who's listened to a good 4.0, 5.1 or Atmos mix of a great album back-to-back with the stereo and tells me they want the stereo to be the one they hear for the rest of their life... I'm pretty tempted to call them a liar. Good surround mixes continue to provide me with revelations in tiny details now presently clearly due to the multichannel format, even with albums I've heard since childhood.

Surround sound is WASTED on cinema when compared to music! No movie is going to make such consistent use of surround and height channels as someone creatively mixing an album from a 24-track music source. Maybe this part is just my brain, but I can much much more easily get immersed in being in the studio with the band/session players around me in a circle, than I can believe I'm in a movie scene where the camera angle is constantly cutting and the surround space is changing with it, while I'm sitting still.

The same mindset would have rejected stereo for mono, and there are still weirdos who complain about stereo panning.
 
anyone who's listened to a good 4.0, 5.1 or Atmos mix of a great album back-to-back with the stereo and tells me they want the stereo to be the one they hear for the rest of their life
I am convinced that 99% of the internet haters have never heard a good mix on a proper setup. I have no issues calling them out as narrow minded. If they can't point to at least one specific mix, their opinion is completely worthless.
 
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