Frank Zappa Waka/Wazoo Deluxe 4CD + Blu-Ray 5.1 and Atmos!!!!

[beerking]

Yay, I have it

 

[beerking]

Yes it flickers

 

[mandrix]

I think the way the BD was authored is pretty darn cool. Never seen anything like it.

Not a big fan of the volume changes, but at least it seems consistent between tracks per set. Yes?
Hey, it's Zappa. Got to be something freaky about it.

People that have disc problems are getting no hassle replacements?

 

[svengaleekie]

I just received my copy and the Blu-ray went straight into the player, and yes that is the most transparent disc I've ever seen! then I'm sitting waiting for the menu to appear, then I realise that you just click between the two albums, so off we go with Waka/Jawaka, in Atmos, fantastic sound, brilliant mix and no problem with the centre channel (hard to imagine what defect on a disc would cause that anyway), the album finishes and goes back to the menu page, so I start The Grand Wazoo, again it sounds superb, also I cannot hear any significant volume differences between the albums or the menu.
The new Alan Williams to listen to next!

 

[perzon57]

I just received my copy and the Blu-ray went straight into the player, and yes that is the most transparent disc I've ever seen! then I'm sitting waiting for the menu to appear, then I realise that you just click between the two albums, so off we go with Waka/Jawaka, in Atmos, fantastic sound, brilliant mix and no problem with the centre channel (hard to imagine what defect on a disc would cause that anyway), the album finishes and goes back to the menu page, so I start The Grand Wazoo, again it sounds superb, also I cannot hear any significant volume differences between the albums or the menu.
The new Alan Williams to listen to next!

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I'm with you on the music and mix, and I can't hear any volume differences either. Can there be differences between the US and EU discs?

 

[J. PUPSTER]

enough is enough, finally e-mailed UMG about a shipping update on this one, highly peeved!!!

[email protected]

 

[svengaleekie]

I'm with you on the music and mix, and I can't hear any volume differences either. Can there be differences between the US and EU discs?

I did wonder that, mine came with a "made in Germany" sticker on it.

 

[sjcorne]

enough is enough, finally e-mailed UMG about a shipping update on this one, highly peeved!!!

[email protected]

Just cancel your order and go with Amazon, I ordered mine on 12/16 and it came less than a day later.

 

[SHB]

I would do that because FZ Store said mine was shipped Sunday, however there's been no tracking info on the UPS site. I wonder if UPS received it? Lesson learned I tells ya, for now on, it's The Moose for my FZ multi channel orders

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Just cancel your order and go with Amazon, I ordered mine on 12/16 and it came less than a day later.

They sent an email back with a ticket on my request, so I'll give 'em a day to see what they say.

 

[mch007]

enough is enough, finally e-mailed UMG about a shipping update on this one, highly peeved!!!

[email protected]

I ordered @amazon US on 12/18 and received yesterday (12/19)

 

[jaypfunk]

OK so I got the replacement set and the Blu-Ray is still playing the center channel with the digital noise. Ugh. I reseated the coax cable on both ends. I'll have to check my settings for each channel and the Blu-Ray again but I will say that no other 5.1 music disc plays like this.

Maybe it's because my receiver is an older Yamaha HTR-6030 and it's not processing the True HD signal properly? My Blu-Ray player is a region-free Toshiba.

I have the 2 front speakers and the center all at the same value and the 2 rears a little higher than the fronts, maybe I will reset everything a little lower to see if that corrects anything. I am so bummed because just by playing small snippets of TGW to test I can tell this thing is an absolute killer!!

PLEASE KILL ME!

 

[jaypfunk]

According to this Wiki it should play fine on my current setup. So fucking pissed off right now!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_TrueHD

 

[J. PUPSTER]

OK so I got the replacement set and the Blu-Ray is still playing the center channel with the digital noise. Ugh. I reseated the coax cable on both ends. I'll have to check my settings for each channel and the Blu-Ray again but I will say that no other 5.1 music disc plays like this.

Maybe it's because my receiver is an older Yamaha HTR-6030 and it's not processing the True HD signal properly? My Blu-Ray player is a region-free Toshiba.

I have the 2 front speakers and the center all at the same value and the 2 rears a little higher than the fronts, maybe I will reset everything a little lower to see if that corrects anything. I am so bummed because just by playing small snippets of TGW to test I can tell this thing is an absolute killer!!

PLEASE KILL ME!

OK I may be reading this wrong, not sure but you say you’re using co-ax, so not sure it supports that transport per wiki

“Because S/PDIF does not have sufficient bandwidth to carry a TrueHD bitstream, or more than two channels of PCM audio, using S/PDIF requires either falling back to a disc's Dolby Digital track or mixing the TrueHD track down to stereo.”

Please don’t shoot me if I’m all wet here, just trying to help figure this out!

 

[bookofsaturdays]

OK I may be reading this wrong, not sure but you say you’re using co-ax, so not sure it supports that transport per wiki

“Because S/PDIF does not have sufficient bandwidth to carry a TrueHD bitstream, or more than two channels of PCM audio, using S/PDIF requires either falling back to a disc's Dolby Digital track or mixing the TrueHD track down to stereo.”

Please don’t shoot me if I’m all wet here, just trying to help figure this out!

That’s correct, it will be a compressed 5.1 stream but it shouldn’t be giving any sort of distortion in the center channel, as far as I’m aware.

 

[stoopid]

OK I may be reading this wrong, not sure but you say you’re using co-ax, so not sure it supports that transport per wiki

“Because S/PDIF does not have sufficient bandwidth to carry a TrueHD bitstream, or more than two channels of PCM audio, using S/PDIF requires either falling back to a disc's Dolby Digital track or mixing the TrueHD track down to stereo.”

Please don’t shoot me if I’m all wet here, just trying to help figure this out!

Limitations with coax and optical are why I jumped to all hdmi a few years ago. I do still use optical for the over the air digital TV (local channels), which isn't high bitrate surround. With only 4 hmdi inputs on my receiver figured this was one thing I could do 'old school'.

 

[jaypfunk]

Thanks for all the replies. I am now leaning toward it being a receiver issue.

I tried every possible audio setting in the Blu-Ray settings and nothing fixed it.

The Yamaha 6030 does not have HDMI in/out. When I bought it I was so mad that just a little while later Yamaha had a receiver with the HDMI in/out.

 

[jaypfunk]

On a separate rant, why Dolby TrueHD anyway? I ALWAYS prefer DTS 5.1 over DD 5.1. It just sounds better.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Thanks for all the replies. I am now leaning toward it being a receiver issue.

I tried every possible audio setting in the Blu-Ray settings and nothing fixed it.

The Yamaha 6030 does not have HDMI in/out. When I bought it I was so mad that just a little while later Yamaha had a receiver with the HDMI in/out.

Yeah I’m still using an old Marantz with analog (no HDMI), hoping to upgrade next year when some AVRs start to support 360RA. I’m guessing no analog from your Toshiba?

 

[himey]

What model number is the Toshiba Blu-ray player?