Loving the drums on Down at the End of Your Road. SW really has perfected how to mix drums in surround.
Jethro Tull 5.1 (“Bursting Out” box set with Steven Wilson 5.1 mixes out in June 2024!)
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I am now going to rip DVD 2, Live In Germany.
I noticed this will be a stereo choice and a 4.1 choice in DTS or Dolby Digital.
I think I will rip both the surrounds and the stereo, compare to CD's 4 & 5.
I am way down the Rabbit Hole in this ripping session.
Will use DVD Audio Extractor as my software choice.
I noticed this will be a stereo choice and a 4.1 choice in DTS or Dolby Digital.
I think I will rip both the surrounds and the stereo, compare to CD's 4 & 5.
I am way down the Rabbit Hole in this ripping session.
Will use DVD Audio Extractor as my software choice.
All ripping finished, that was a chore.
Good news, DVD's are so much easier to rip over Blu Rays, for me. There where 5 CD's ripped to stereo FLAC and 3 DVD's ripped to either stereo, 4.1 or 5.1. The 3 DVDs had a total of 9 separate rips to FLAC, actually 10, but I slid the one easter egg song "End Game Instrumental" into the 1981 Associated recordings file.
I used DVD Audio Extractor and was a breeze.
Now to copy them over to my NAS and open JRiver and import them. I am not going to import the CD's as the DVD's are a mirror image of all the CD's plus the Flat Transfer and I think two songs. The DVD's are all 24bit vs the 16bit of the CD's.
I'll post the Khz later in case anyone is interested, but will either be 48 or 96.
There are 136 total files or songs you can call them on the 3 DVD's.
Good news, DVD's are so much easier to rip over Blu Rays, for me. There where 5 CD's ripped to stereo FLAC and 3 DVD's ripped to either stereo, 4.1 or 5.1. The 3 DVDs had a total of 9 separate rips to FLAC, actually 10, but I slid the one easter egg song "End Game Instrumental" into the 1981 Associated recordings file.
I used DVD Audio Extractor and was a breeze.
Now to copy them over to my NAS and open JRiver and import them. I am not going to import the CD's as the DVD's are a mirror image of all the CD's plus the Flat Transfer and I think two songs. The DVD's are all 24bit vs the 16bit of the CD's.
I'll post the Khz later in case anyone is interested, but will either be 48 or 96.
There are 136 total files or songs you can call them on the 3 DVD's.
JediJoker
Audio Engineer/Enthusiast
*DVD-V, unfortunately, as with all the Tull booksets.
NYMo
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$122.45 au on Amazon Australia
I haven't played a lick on this set yet, but I already know the best it will score is a 9 because I'm docking it a point for this insane disc storage mechanism. Whoever devised it needs to find another line of work. I'm so glad I rip this stuff so I never have to deal with it again.
I totally agree on the storage design for 6 of the disks. I found it damn near impossible to get them back in the holder. I have no idea who thought this up, but I hope it's never repeated.
Thank you for the correction. I thought DVD-V was for video and DVD-A was for audio.
Had my first listen today, just the main album in 5.1 so far. I'm never gonna love this album, there just aren't any killer tunes on it; they're all good, but not great. Nevertheless, I'm glad I have it and look forward to hearing the rest of the surround content, esp. the quad rehearsals that @JohnN has touted. The Wilson mix is great, as expected, although I really do wish he would spread a bit of the lead vocals to the fronts, instead of completely isolating them in the center -- on my rig, it just sounds somewhat disembodied when separated out like this.
I will have to think really hard about buying any more of these sets down the line, should they emerge, unless they revert to the more modest price points (sub $40) that used to be the case with this series. I'm just not a big enough fan of the 80s and 90s Tull albums to justify the expense, for something that will mainly just sit on the shelf, listened to a couple of times then rarely if ever again. To each his own, of course, so I hope the rest of you who already have it are really diggin' this release!
I will have to think really hard about buying any more of these sets down the line, should they emerge, unless they revert to the more modest price points (sub $40) that used to be the case with this series. I'm just not a big enough fan of the 80s and 90s Tull albums to justify the expense, for something that will mainly just sit on the shelf, listened to a couple of times then rarely if ever again. To each his own, of course, so I hope the rest of you who already have it are really diggin' this release!
Drums on The Clasp are really good too, lots of movement, almost circular at times.
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The main reason this set is so expensive is the amount of new material JT recorded during this period - nearly 3 albums worth - requiring an unusually large number of discs to represent it. Musically and technically, the band was on fire and it shows, not only in the quality of the additional studio material, but also in the live set taken from several different shows in Germany. I know a lot of people don't care much for this period of JT, but fortunately for me TBATB has always been a favorite album - reaching a near perfect balance between prog rock, folk rock and electronic keyboard textures.
If they continue with the catalog series I'll probably buy them all, but the only one I'd really like to see is Crest Of A Knave. Although Ian Anderson has said he'd like to do a remix of Under Wraps if they can add a brand new real drum track, so far the record company has not given that project a green light. So, if this is the last deluxe set to be released, at least it's fittingly huge.
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My son just warned me of the spring loaded clips thing. Glad he called me as our copy will be delivered tomorrow. Sort of personal, but I was a left handed dude all of my life...until a few years ago. Lost much of my left side, but still use that hand in habit..and it can be a big mistake! I'd have broke this...no doubt about it......Same here...
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JediJoker
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-AudioI thought DVD-V was for video and DVD-A was for audio.
The top two discs aren't too bad to load in place, but they won't stay in place until the bottom most disk is also in place. The trick seems to be to insert the 3rd disc (be mindful there is a slot to hold the bottom edge) and press it down against the "springs" far enough to get it below the side holders, then snap it in place. To be sure it's the worst design I've ever seen.
True, the Broadsword set has 8 discs, but the set previous to this one, A (La Mode) has 6 discs and the list price was about $50 (and was sold for much less by many retailers; you can get it new for $31.70 at Amazon in the U.S. right now), so that's an extra $30 for 2 more discs, plus a longer book. I think maybe inflation and lingering supply chain issues might be a factor in the higher price for this set; I'm sure it's costing them more to produce it than it would have even just a couple of years ago.
Reminds me of the system in the Back to the Future movie box set
Stupid and almost impossible to use. You kind of had to flex the discs to slide them into the slots two layers can't be good for the blurays. I wonder if the new 4K set uses the same system
Stupid and almost impossible to use. You kind of had to flex the discs to slide them into the slots two layers can't be good for the blurays. I wonder if the new 4K set uses the same system
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Sadly, you're probably right. Back in 2021, I purchased A (La Mode) new for $29.80 ($33.65 with tax and shipping). This year, Broadsword cost me $58.75 ($65.71 with tax and shipping) from the same retailer - nearly double. If they do continue these reissues, hopefully the remaining titles will have fewer discs. One could hope that prices would be less than TBATB, but when do prices ever go down? At least the JT reissues offer more value for money than many bloated box sets.
Sounds like you bought from importCDs, just like me - I paid the exact same price for A (La Mode), just a touch higher than yours with tax. Big difference over two years, even with the extra discs.
Anyway, for all my earlier pontificating about how I might not buy any more of these sets if they do come out, I just listened to DVD 2 of the Broadsword Monster Edition, and really enjoyed it. I wasn't able to pay full attention through the whole thing, or stay in the sweet spot the entire time, but I heard enough to be very pleasantly surprised at the quality of the songs, performances and surround mix. I will probably play this disc a lot more than DVD 1, over time. And it made me realize that behind these 80s Tull albums with a lot of then-fashionable production gloss added to them, there are outtakes and earlier versions that have a lot of the 80s-glitz stripped away, and sound more like prime 70s-era Tull songs. So hopefully that's true even on an album like Under Wraps, where the bonus material outshines the album itself, in which case I'm sure I'll keep buying them.
And I found the Easter egg track, thanks to the clues given in previous posts in this thread. I don't recall there being any hidden surprises in any of the previous Tull deluxe editions, but if anyone knows otherwise, please enlighten me!
