Kodi users: Concert and Music Videos - Please Read

[LuvMyQuad]

Here's another example of a CUE file that won't play:

REM GENRE ""
REM DATE
REM COMMENT ""
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
TITLE "The Power and the Glory"
FILE "Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory.mkv" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Proclamation (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 00:00:00

The file names of the folder, the CUE file, and the MKV file are all:
Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory

Have you added MKV as a valid music file in kodi?

Edit: nevermind. I see you have gotten some MKVs to work

 

[HomerJAU]

Have you added MKV as a valid music file in kodi?

Edit: nevermind. I see you have gotten some MKVs to work

Yes. That must be done in the advancedstiings.xml file so Kodi will 'see' mkv files for its Music (audio) database

 

[paligap]

Wil the mkv play without the CUE?

Yes, all the combined MKV files play with correct chapters, regardless of whether their corresponding CUE files play.

 

[paligap]

To clarify: I haven't tried to play any of these recombined MKV files in Kodi, just using VLC on my PC. I figured if the CUE file won't play in VLC on my PC, there's no sense in moving them to my Music database in Kodi. To further clarify, the original separated MVK files play just fine in Kodi.

 

[HomerJAU]

Can you post the entire CUE file contents for one that is not playing please (copy and paste the text here)

 

[paligap]

Can you post the entire CUE file contents for one that is not playing please (copy and paste the text here)

REM GENRE ""
REM DATE
REM COMMENT ""
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
TITLE "The Power and the Glory"
FILE "Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory.mkv" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Proclamation (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "So Sincere (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 06:57:50
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Aspirations (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 10:47:27
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Playing the Game (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 16:10:45
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Cogs in Cogs (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 22:56:53
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "No God’s a Man (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 26:05:42
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "The Face (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 30:32:34
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Valedictory (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 34:45:25
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "The Power and the Glory (5.1 mix)"
PERFORMER "Gentle Giant"
INDEX 01 38:11:15

 

[HomerJAU]

The fix is: ....

REM DATE

No date VLC chokes.

remove that line or enter a year:
e,g. REM DATE 2000

 

[HomerJAU]

The next MMH beta release will not write a REM DATE if the date is empty. I will build and upload Beta 7 in next 15 minutes

BTW: In Join Batch tool the Date is read from the folder name - example: Animals (1978) - year must be in brackets

 

[paligap]

The fix is: ....

REM DATE

No date VLC chokes.

remove that line or enter a year:
e,g. REM DATE 2000

That did it. Thanks!

 

[paligap]

The fix is: ....

REM DATE

No date VLC chokes.

remove that line or enter a year:
e,g. REM DATE 2000

I went back and used the Scrape Concert folders function to ensure the Concert Tags (Mandatory) window had the year, genre, and correct title, and saved the NFO files. Then I reran the Batch Merge, and all the new CUE files run in VLC with the correct chapters.

However, now only about a third of the CUE files (and their corresponding MKV files) display the correct song (chapter) title at the beginning of each song. Some of them display the title of the last song for all the songs in the MKV files. Other display only Artist - Album - Artist for every song. One displays "title_t00" for every song. I've looked at the CUE files, and I can't find any discrepancies to explain the different behaviors.

I'm beginning to wonder whether VLC is the best way to test the CUE files. I might try to find an alternative to use on my PC, or just add the files to the Music database in Kodi on my secondary system to see what Kodi does with them.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

'm beginning to wonder whether VLC is the best way to test the CUE files. I might try to find an alternative to use on my PC, or just add the files to the Music database in Kodi on my secondary system to see what Kodi does with them.

VLC works funky with cue files when I try it too. Like I select the cue and it starts playing a track that's midway through the album.

 

[HomerJAU]

However, now only about a third of the CUE files (and their corresponding MKV files) display the correct song (chapter) title at the beginning of each song. Some of them display the title of the last song for all the songs in the MKV files. Other display only Artist - Album - Artist for every song. One displays "title_t00" for every song. I've looked at the CUE files, and I can't find any discrepancies to explain the different behaviors

It sounds like VLC is displaying the Chapter title. Just about BD and DVD does not have song titles in the chapter name. If you want that use the MMH Chapter Editor to get the titles from MusicBrainz for your chaptered MKV files.

I’m not sure what MMH Join does with the chapters. I’ll take a look tomorrow. Maybe it’s using the file name of the individual files and your files did not have names based on the song title?

EDIT: When MMH joins mkv files it creates chapters and names them same as the file names (input files).

Kodi does not show the chapter name when it plays or shows the song titles based on chapter names. When using a CUE it’s the CUE track name.

 

[HomerJAU]

If anyone wants to see the song names while playing an MKV (e.g a concert) in Kodi or JRiver etc I could add them automatically as a Subtitle that just shows for first 10 seconds of each new chapter?

 

[paligap]

It sounds like VLC is displaying the Chapter title. Just about BD and DVD does not have song titles in the chapter name. If you want that use the MMH Chapter Editor to get the titles from MusicBrainz for your chaptered MKV files.

I’m not sure what MMH Join does with the chapters. I’ll take a look tomorrow. Maybe it’s using the file name of the individual files and your files did not have names based on the song title?

EDIT: When MMH joins mkv files it creates chapters and names them same as the file names (input files).

Kodi does not show the chapter name when it plays or shows the song titles based on chapter names. When using a CUE it’s the CUE track name.

The MKV song files that I joined and created CUE files for were originally split from ripped MKV files using MMH. They were named and tagged using MMH. It's fine if Kodi doesn't display the song titles when they start as VLC does; I just thought it was weird how VLC seemed to be treating the joined MKV and CUE files differently when all the separate MKV files and created CUE files had the song titles.

Do I still need to tell Kodi to play MKV files as Music, too? I looked on the PC where I have Kodi 21 installed, and there is no AdvancedSettings.xml file. I'll have to find out how to access that file on my Vero 4K+.

Edit: I see that the AdvancedSettings.xml file does not exist by default: https://kodi.wiki/view/Advancedsettings.xml

 

[HomerJAU]

If you want MKV files to be played from Kodi’s Music library you must have the AdvancedSettings.xml file with the MKV file type setting. The Music library can read cue files.

As far as I know Kodi’s Music Video library can’t use cue files (only the Music library). The Music Video library requires NFO files (one per media/song file) and cannot use media file chapters (to define multiple songs in one file).

 

[paligap]

I was able to add the AdvancedSettings.xml file to my secondary system, which consists of Kodi 21 on a Windows 10 PC. I also added the music video MKV files and CUE files as a source for Music. For the most part, it works, but there are some quirks. Clicking on a song in an album starts the video player, but it's in the background, and I have to click somewhere on the screen to bring the video to the foreground. Maybe there's a setting I have to change.

In the default Estuary skin, there are no Skip buttons on the player, only fast forward or rewind. Aeon Nox Silvo does have the Skip buttons. When I changed back to Estuary, I found I could access a Skip forward button by going to the left panel.

The only other Music source I've added to this system are my Atmos albums, which contain the songs as M4A files. I could have sworn that I was play these from the Albums menu before, as I can on my primary system with a Vero 4K+, but now, when I click on a song in an Atmos album, Kodi just cycles through the songs on the menu and never plays anything. I have to go to the Files menu, open the album folder, and click on a song to get it started.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

I was able to add the AdvancedSettings.xml file to my secondary system, which consists of Kodi 21 on a Windows 10 PC. I also added the music video MKV files and CUE files as a source for Music. For the most part, it works, but there are some quirks. Clicking on a song in an album starts the video player, but it's in the background, and I have to click somewhere on the screen to bring the video to the foreground. Maybe there's a setting I have to change.

In the default Estuary skin, there are no Skip buttons on the player, only fast forward or rewind. Aeon Nox Silvo does have the Skip buttons. When I changed back to Estuary, I found I could access a Skip forward button by going to the left panel.

The only other Music source I've added to this system are my Atmos albums, which contain the songs as M4A files. I could have sworn that I was play these from the Albums menu before, as I can on my primary system with a Vero 4K+, but now, when I click on a song in an Atmos album, Kodi just cycles through the songs on the menu and never plays anything. I have to go to the Files menu, open the album folder, and click on a song to get it started.

The video in the background sounds like a setting issue. There is a tutorial on the forum to guide you in setting up the AN Silvo skin.

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/installing-aeon-nox-silvo-skin-for-kodi.24797/

The Atmos not playing from the library seems like a library issue. Did you tag the m4a's correctly?

 

[paligap]

The video in the background sounds like a setting issue. There is a tutorial on the forum to guide you in setting up the AN Silvo skin.

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/installing-aeon-nox-silvo-skin-for-kodi.24797/

The Atmos not playing from the library seems like a library issue. Did you tag the m4a's correctly?

Thanks. You were right about the Atmos library issue. I think I removed all sources to start "clean," but when I added my Atmos albums back as a source, I somehow didn't update the library. Once I did so, the songs play from the Albums menu.

 

[paligap]

I had some success setting up AN Silvo using the materials in the tutorial thread, but some of the options did not appear in my version of the skin. Most notably, there was no "Autoplay music in full screen." Also there was no "Random Artist Fanart" under Music background. I don't know if some things have changed in Kodi and/or AN Silvo since the tutorial thread was created.

I'll keep fiddling around and researching, but at some point, I might decide to just go back to the separate MKV files and NFO files approach.

 

[LuvMyQuad]

I'm sure stuff has changed.

The auto-play in full screen pisses me off too. You don't need it. There is a special file update that fixes it. I'll look for it. Till then, the back button will take you to full screen playback.

is there any fanart loaded in yet?