Lennon 'Gimme Some Truth' 5.1 Audio Levels - DTS vs DD

[JonUrban]

This post only pertains to the two 5.1 versions on the 2020 release John Lennon - Gimme Some Truth.
It has nothing to do with the Atmos or 7.1 tracks. Apparently, those are fine and awesome.

There was talk on the forum to put all of this info in one place, so I decided to create a new thread with screen caps of all 36 songs, so here we go. You can see with your own eyes that the difference between the DTS 5.1 and the DD 5.1 on many of the tracks is astonishing.

These screen caps are from the two indicated tracks on the BluRay in the chart below

NOTE: The DTS-HDMA and DTS files have the same levels, so there was no need to include them in the comparison.

Here we go. These screen caps are from the audio workstation software 'Reaper'. In all cases, the audio from the Dolby Digital (6Ch) 48kHz (Lossy) is shown first, then the DTS-HDMA (6Ch) 24/96kHz (Lossless) audio follows.

01- Instant Karma - DD 5.1

01- Instant Karma - DTS 5.1

02- Cold Turkey DD

02-Cold Turkey - DTS

03- Working Class Hero DD

03- Working Class Hero DTS

 

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04- Isolation DD

04-Isolation DTS

05-Love DD

05- Love DTS

06-God DD

06- God DTS

 

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07- Power to the People DD

07- Power to the People DTS

08- Imagine DD

08- Imagine DTS

09- Jealous Guy DD

09- Jealous Guy DTS

 

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10- Gimme Some Truth DD

10- Gimme Some Truth DTS

11- Oh My Love DD

11-Oh My Love DTS

12- How Do You Sleep At Night DD

12 - How Do You Sleep at Night DTS

 

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13- Oh Yoko DD

13- Oh Yoko DTS

14- Angela DD

14-Angela DTS

15-Come Together (Live) DD

15- Come Together (Live) DTS

 

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16- Mind Games DD

16-Mind Games DTS

17- Out of the Blue DD

17- Out of the Blue DTS

18 - I Know I Know DD

18 - I Know I Know DTS

 

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19- Whatever Gets You Through the Night DD

19- Whatever Gets You Through the Night DTS

20- Bless You DD

20 - Bless You DTS

21- #9 Dream DD

21- #9 Dream DTS

 

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22- Steel and Glass DD

22- Steel and Glass DTS

23 - Stand By Me DD

23 - Stand By Me DTS

24- Angel Baby DD

24 - Angel Baby DTS

 

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25- Starting Over DD

25 - Starting Over DTS

26- I'm Losing You DD

26 - I'm Losing You DTS

27 - Beautiful Boy DD

27 - Beautiful Boy DTS

 

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28 - Watching the Wheels DD

28 - Watching the Wheels DTS

29- Woman DD

29 - Woman DTS

30 - Dear Yoko DD

30- Dear Yoko DTS

 

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31- Every Man Has A Woman Who Loves Him DD

31- Every Man Has A Woman Who Loves Him DTS

32- Nobody Told Me DD

32 - Nobody Told Me DTS

33- I'm Steppin' Out DD

33- I'm Steppin' Out DTS

 

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34- Grow Old With Me DD

34- Grow Old With Me DTS

35- Happy Xmas DD

35 - Happy Xmas DTS

36 - Give Peace a Chance DD

36 - Give Peace a Chance DTS

 

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So, above are all of the screen caps of the wav files. Now here is one last look.

I took the Dolby Digital INSTANT KARMA:

Then I boosted the entire file by 8 dB:

And now compare the above 8dB Boost with the DTS rip below:

IS IT THE SAME MIX??

It's too much for me. Just listen to the damn thing. My advice as I've stated earlier, if you only have 5.1, play the Dolby Digital 5.1. It's more balanced.​

 

[4-earredwonder]

Jon Urban, Papa of QQ Forum, you've missed your calling. You should first and foremost become a BETA tester for ALL potential SURROUND RELEASES before they're committed to polycarbonate and catch ALL those NUMEROUS bugaboos in the RAW.

You'd become the ALPHA MALE of BETA TESTING and any crooked enterprise that DARES to release in LOSSY CODECS will be severely SCRUTINIZED!

Yours truly,

 

[marpow]

WowJon, impressive. I am going to re rip the DD.

 

[perzon57]

WowJon, impressive. I am going to re rip the DD.

Don't you have a Atmos setup now?

 

[sjcorne]

Thanks for taking the time to lay all this out! My only question is: if you were to highlight one of the DD 5.1 tracks, then go to Item -> Item Settings -> Normalize Items, would the result be the same as the DTS-HD?

 

[JonUrban]

Thanks for taking the time to lay all this out! My only question is: if you were to highlight one of the DD 5.1 tracks, then go to Item -> Item Settings -> Normalize Items, would the result be the same as the DTS-HD?

You would get this (Instant Karma):

DTS

 

[aludra]

Yes Thanks Jon for all these screenshots.....Very educational indeed WRT mastering differences between Dolby and DTS...I am surprised(not really) at some of the brickwalling going on.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Well the fronts on the DTS of "Cold Turkey" look... uh