Listening to in Dolby Atmos Streaming, via Tidal/Apple/Amazon

[tlake6659]

The last song on Love's Four Sail album is in Atmos. Sounds fake though.

 

[popshop]

The last song on Love's Four Sail album is in Atmos. Sounds fake though.

Indeed fake. There are a handful of Love tracks from Forever Changes, plus 7 and 7.
The Love songs in particular are really disappointing and made me try to stop this upmix nonsense.
If you want to try to alert the powers that be, our esteemed @humprof has posted these links:

Dolby:

Email Us - Dolby Atmos - Dolby Professional​

professional.dolby.com

Warner Music (I couldn't get the links in posts 1 & 4 of this thread to work, but I think this one does):

Contact - Warner Music Group​

We want to hear from you! You can send us a message for any comments or inquiries by using the...

www.wmg.com

Apple Music:
Feedback - Apple Music - Apple

 

[LennonCobain]

I’m going to assume that these are the Atmos mixes that will be on the Scarecrow deluxe edition even though Small Town is the only available original album track from the upcoming release.

 

[mkt]

Fitz and the Tantrums is the new featured artist. Out of My League is the song that I had heard on the radio.

 

[w00dy1981]

I’m going to assume that these are the Atmos mixes that will be on the Scarecrow deluxe edition even though Small Town is the only available original album track from the upcoming release.

What the hell do they do to these mixes to make the impact and crack of snare drums or high end fidelity of hihats get lost?

ive got AirPods in and when switching between atmos and stereo the stereo version has so much more impact from the drums and the atmos just sounds flat. Rain on the scarecrow in particular

 

[humprof]

Little Simz is from the UK. We have a whole other take on hip-hop here.

And now she's won Britain's Mercury Prize.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...-simz-wins-for-sometimes-i-might-be-introvert

 

[MrSmithers]

And now she's won Britain's Mercury Prize.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...-simz-wins-for-sometimes-i-might-be-introvert

Interestingly... Out of this year's 11 nominees - 9 have Atmos mixes.

• Jessie Buckley & Bernard Butler - For All Our Days That Tear The Heart
• Joy Crookes - Skin
• Sam Fender - Seventeen Going Under
• Kojey Radical - Reason To Smile
• Little Simz - Sometimes I Might Be Introvert
• Nova Twins - Supernova
• Self Esteem - Prioritise Pleasure
• Harry Styles - Harry's House
• Wet Leg - Wet Leg
• Yard Act - The Overload

With Fergus McCreadie - Forest Floor and Gwenno - Tresor being just stereo I think.

The Mercury Prize generally goes for a less commercial winner. In my opinion Wet Leg were robbed! Especially with it's great Atmos mix!

Harry Styles & Self Esteem are really good too and Joy Crookes is decent. Any of these could have won. Little Simz - while sometimes it might be interesting with the cool backing track, it's just not for me - especially at 19 tracks!

Sam Fender is a great album but the Atmos mix is poor/non existent. I do not get Yard Act at all? Sounds like a Yorkshireman reeling off a shopping list?! But that's musical appreciation and subjectivity for you. Would be pretty dull if everything sounded the same...

My top 3 (with links)

Wet Leg - Wet Leg
Harry Styles - Harry's House
Self Esteem - Prioritise Pleasure (check out the second song Fucking Wizardry - amazing Atmos mix!)

 

[LennonCobain]

 

[LennonCobain]

 

[humprof]

piano Rear Left! horns Rear Right! this is much more Surround-y than the other Verve and Blue Note Atmos mixes of material of similar vintage! wonder how they achieved it..

In the September issue of Jazz Times, there's a short feature on Gregg Field, who produced Ella Fitzgerald's The Lost Berlin Tapes (2020) and this year's Ella at the Hollywood Bowl: The Irving Berlin Songbook. (I expect that's how the studio version of the songbook wound up getting an Atmos mix.) He talks about how he used iZotope's Music Rebalance to isolate both Ella's vocal and the instruments, give her voice more "air," and EQ everything in a more "contemporary" way. I wonder if they used the same tech on the Atmos mix, and if Field played a part.

 

[fredblue]

In the September issue of Jazz Times, there's a short feature on Gregg Field, who produced Ella Fitzgerald's The Lost Berlin Tapes (2020) and this year's Ella at the Hollywood Bowl: The Irving Berlin Songbook. (I expect that's how the studio version of the songbook wound up getting an Atmos mix.) He talks about how he used iZotope's Music Rebalance to isolate both Ella's vocal and the instruments, give her voice more "air," and EQ everything in a more "contemporary" way. I wonder if they used the same tech on the Atmos mix, and if Field played a part.

nice! thanks for the info.

however/whatever they did, i'd be more than happy for something similar to be done on all material lacking sufficient multitracks to conventionally mix in Atmos.

its much more satisfyingly Surround-y than the alternatives i've come across so far, chiefly Warner's Atmos fake and bake but also Capitol's room ambience playback capture procedure (which i think they maybe nicked the idea from Sony's Mark Wilder since he used a similar technique on the 5.1's of "Kind Of Blue" & "Time Out"?) and whatever kinda method Universal were using upto this point, as i found that to be underwhelming also.

 

[humprof]

nice! thanks for the info.

however/whatever they did, i'd be more than happy for something similar to be done on all material lacking sufficient multitracks to conventionally mix in Atmos.

its much more satisfyingly Surround-y than the alternatives i've come across so far, chiefly Warner's Atmos fake and bake but also Capitol's room ambience playback capture procedure (which i think they maybe nicked the idea from Sony's Mark Wilder since he used a similar technique on the 5.1's of "Kind Of Blue" & "Time Out"?) and whatever kinda method Universal were using upto this point, as i found that to be underwhelming also.

Amen.

 

[MrSmithers]

but also Capitol's room ambience playback capture procedure (which i think they maybe nicked the idea from Sony's Mark Wilder since he used a similar technique on the 5.1's of "Kind Of Blue" & "Time Out"?)

Completely agree! It might sound good in the control booth with the master tracks but when it gets down to streaming audio quality it just doesn't have that much punch. I've had better results futzing with some of the 3 track Nat King Cole AP releases... Where you double mono one side for the fronts, keep the centre, and double mono the other side for the rears. Resulting in quite a nice "pentagon" immersive experience...

 

[MrSmithers]

The Temptations - Sky's The Limit

Tidal - https://tidal.com/album/221990066
Revisiting this classic... Now this is what I call Atmos! Mix by Kaleb "KQuick" Rollins who has done some really cool stuff...

 

[fredblue]

Completely agree! It might sound good in the control booth with the master tracks but when it gets down to streaming audio quality it just doesn't have that much punch. I've had better results futzing with some of the 3 track Nat King Cole AP releases... Where you double mono one side for the fronts, keep the centre, and double mono the other side for the rears. Resulting in quite a nice "pentagon" immersive experience...

ooh that penta-futzin' sounds cool, i must try it sometime! i can't remember now which of those Nat King Cole SACDs i have but wow i remember them sounding absolutely terrific at the time. really i feel pure 3-track for albums the stature of Kind Of Blue, Time Out, etc should be (and maybe should always have been) the way to go if they can't (or couldn't) get anything truly Surroundily worthwhile out of the tapes...?

 

[fredblue]

The Temptations - Sky's The Limit

Tidal - https://tidal.com/album/221990066
Revisiting this classic... Now this is what I call Atmos! Mix by Kaleb "KQuick" Rollins who has done some really cool stuff...

in the words of Woody Buzzcut from SexToy Story 4; "reach for the sky's the limit!"

if everything was mixed like the Motown stuff we wouldn't need Polls, or indeed our new Atmos Sister Site!

so.. maybe it's best if we keep things as they are, with 38 albums of quality Atmos a year and 3,800 fake singles of Shmatmos a week!

 

[sjcorne]

Revisiting this classic... Now this is what I call Atmos! Mix by Kaleb "KQuick" Rollins who has done some really cool stuff...

I thought Mills Logan did this one? (He took credit for it when I interviewed him...)

 

[MrSmithers]

I thought Mills Logan did this one? (He took credit for it when I interviewed him...)

Ahh interesting. I had him at "The Temptations Sing Smokey" but you know I've not checked every track and this is just off the Tidal credits? And they're not proven by any means...

On further inspection of the 4 Temptation Atmos albums... It seems a mixture of Mills but mostly Kaleb "KQuick" Rollins and Juro "Mez" Davis?! Whatever Mills did or used - it certainly worked! I guess he was directing and just had assisting engineers?

 

[fredblue]

Ahh interesting. I had him at "The Temptations Sing Smokey" but you know I've not checked every track and this is just off the Tidal credits? And they're not proven by any means...

On further inspection of the 4 Temptation Atmos albums... It seems a mixture of Mills but mostly Kaleb "KQuick" Rollins and Juro "Mez" Davis?! Whatever Mills did or used - it certainly worked! I guess he was directing and just had assisting engineers?

its ok, just make it all up! that way you can be sure of all the facts. works like a dream until you get found out!

so, it was Mrs. Mills.. smoked a kipper.. in the conservatory.. with Colonel Sanders!

there, that's the mystery of tonight's episode of Cluelumbo solved!

 

[MrSmithers]

its ok, just make it all up! that way you can be sure of all the facts. works like a dream until you get found out!

so, it was Mrs. Mills.. smoked a kipper.. in the conservatory.. with Colonel Sanders!

there, that's the mystery of tonight's episode of Cluelumbo solved!

Ha yeah I don't know t'wat Tidal were doing there... It's clear there are no facts! As (sex toy) Woody would say... "there's a snake (in my mis-appropriated credit) boots"! T'was Mr Smithers, in the ballroom, killing everyone (softly) without the fax...