Listening to in Dolby Atmos Streaming, via Tidal/Apple/Amazon

[Scott M4]

All the Harrison studio albums look like they got upgraded to Atmos today on Apple Music. At least in U.S.

Even Wonderwall.

I wonder who the heck remixed them all???

 

[César]

I wonder who the heck remixed them all???

All available in Spain, will listen to them later:

Thirty Three & 1/3 de George Harrison
George Harrison de George Harrison
Somewhere In England de George Harrison
Gone Troppo de George Harrison
Cloud Nine de George Harrison
Brainwashed de George Harrison

 

[César]

Quickly sampled Brainwashed and Cloud Nine. Summary: every sound, everywhere, all at once (=bad, lazy upmix).
Really deceived. Will try more in the afternoon, but now my expectations are very low. Bummer.

 

[brnzback]

Not In Finland! Where you live?

USA

 

[J. PUPSTER]

I wonder who the heck remixed them all???

ChatGPT

 

[Ick]

Quickly sampled Brainwashed and Cloud Nine. Summary: every sound, everywhere, all at once (=bad, lazy upmix).
Really deceived. Will try more in the afternoon, but now my expectations are very low. Bummer.

I agree that they are somewhat lazy. I did hear a couple of cool things in “When We Was Fab” but overall the mix is not adventurous but not horrible either.

 

[popshop]

(Edit 2: Things have changed. Cloud Nine repeated songs are gone and the mixes are different now. Apologies.)
(EDIT: Meaning upmixed. I listened to a lot and didn't hear any individual sounds. Like César said, all speakers have the same instruments. Not trying to disagree with you Ick, just trying to clarify.)
However, we have a voice. Some changes were made with the WEA songs from a few months back, and we can/should/must let the powers that be know that these mixes are pointless and damaging to the brand. Contacts:
Dark Horse records: [email protected]
BMG music: [email protected]
Dolby: Email Us - Dolby Atmos - Dolby Professional
Apple: Feedback - Apple Music - Apple
Haven't found one for the GH estate/management but they have social media.

 

[~dave~~wave~]

I listened to a lot and didn't hear any individual sounds. Like César said, all speakers have the same instruments.

Everybody is entitled to an opinion based on a first impression, but the above assertions are demonstrably false.
I will give one example only, not interested in a debate.

Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) [thanks George, trying to do that here as respectfully as possible]


Surround backs have isolated sustained harmonium chords, bass guitar & backing vocals.
Center channel lead voc, drums, lead guitar.
LFE bass guitar fundamental octave only, no kick.

I think we should all cool down before starting a freaking social media attack on the Harrison estate.

I don't understand why anyone is proud they got some old singles from the 60s and 70s deleted as Atmos "upmixes" and reverted to stereo.
Screw that, I want to hear Archie Bell & The Drells Tighten Up Part I & II banging from 12 speakers again and wrapping around my head on my Airpods.

Dammit, I pay for my Apple subscription, and you have diminished my access to tracks I enjoyed.
And no, they categorically do not sound the same in "7.1 all speaker stereo" switched on the receiver as they did before, even if the mix is "lazy" or doesn't meet one's personal standards.
You don't get to decide for me what I groove to.

Please consider that my wife is a huge George Harrison fan.
She will get a great deal of pleasure listening to these arguably substandard Atmos tracks on her Airpods at the gym and dog walking.
It will not be a win for her if Atmos snobbery gets these tracks deleted and reverted to stereo.

One man's opinion, agree or disagree. Over and out.

 

[sjcorne]

I listened to a lot and didn't hear any individual sounds. Like César said, all speakers have the same instruments.

I cherry-picked a few tracks from "Cloud 9" and had the same impression. The fronts, sides, and front heights seem to be more-or-less the same. The rears are interesting though, lead vocal and drums seem to be mostly wiped out.

In any case, I can't imagine Apple/UMe or the Harrison estate intentionally planning to drop George's entire catalog in Atmos without some kind of physical tie-in (like the McCartney I II III box set that came out the same time as the Atmos mixes of those albums) or so much as a press release/social media post.

 

[fripppp]

My main problem with these computer generated 'mixes' is that when they exist, they prevent real mixes of the material from ever coming to fruition. Why would they make a new, decent, mix for these albums, when theres already one available? Cloud 9 was the first album I ever bought for myself, one that really means a lot to me, and this pains me so much that I'll likely never get to hear a proper surround mix of it now, because they put out this garbage that I and anyone without the multitracks could've whipped up in less than an hours worth of work.

 

[popshop]

Hmm, I think things are still changing. Cloud Nine has repeated tracks. Maybe songs are switching versions?
On self titled LP "Faster" is definitely different than it was this morning.
Indeed, I should chill out.

May 30 will be the 50th anniversary of Living in a Material World.

 

[sjcorne]

My main problem with these computer generated 'mixes' is that when they exist, they prevent real mixes of the material from ever coming to fruition.

That's not necessarily true, I think individual tracks and albums are replaced (or "updated") more often than we realize. The initial Sgt. Pepper Atmos mix was swapped with an improved version, and the upmix of Carly Simon's "You're So Vain" was pulled when the full No Secrets album came out.

 

[PurpleMoustache]

That's not necessarily true, I think individual tracks and albums are replaced (or "updated") more often than we realize. The initial Sgt. Pepper Atmos mix was swapped with an improved version, and the upmix of Carly Simon's "You're So Vain" was pulled when the full No Secrets album came out.

The mix for Aphex Twin’s Selected Ambient Works 85-92 also lasted about a month before being pulled as well…

 

[fripppp]

That's not necessarily true, I think individual tracks and albums are replaced (or "updated") more often than we realize. The initial Sgt. Pepper Atmos mix was swapped with an improved version, and the upmix of Carly Simon's "You're So Vain" was pulled when the full No Secrets album came out.

That is true.. I just really hope thats the case and these aren't permanent mixes. Only time can tell.

 

[Cheezmo]

Could be a temporary glitch on Apple Music, but George Harrison - All Things Must Pass (50th Anniversary) [Super Deluxe] has been replaced with a non-Atmos version (I had it in my library and the entire album says "No Longer Available", but there is a version with that name in Apple Music that is all stereo.

The All Things Must Pass (50th Anniversary) album without the extras is still there and in Atmos.

Its back to normal.

 

[himey]

Its back to normal.

I still don't see it in this section on Tidal...

 

[woody]

Everybody is entitled to an opinion based on a first impression, but the above assertions are demonstrably false.
I will give one example only, not interested in a debate.

Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) [thanks George, trying to do that here as respectfully as possible]


Surround backs have isolated sustained harmonium chords, bass guitar & backing vocals.
Center channel lead voc, drums, lead guitar.
LFE bass guitar fundamental octave only, no kick.

I think we should all cool down before starting a freaking social media attack on the Harrison estate.

I don't understand why anyone is proud they got some old singles from the 60s and 70s deleted as Atmos "upmixes" and reverted to stereo.
Screw that, I want to hear Archie Bell & The Drells Tighten Up Part I & II banging from 12 speakers again and wrapping around my head on my Airpods.

Dammit, I pay for my Apple subscription, and you have diminished my access to tracks I enjoyed.
And no, they categorically do not sound the same in "7.1 all speaker stereo" switched on the receiver as they did before, even if the mix is "lazy" or doesn't meet one's personal standards.
You don't get to decide for me what I groove to.

Please consider that my wife is a huge George Harrison fan.
She will get a great deal of pleasure listening to these arguably substandard Atmos tracks on her Airpods at the gym and dog walking.
It will not be a win for her if Atmos snobbery gets these tracks deleted and reverted to stereo.

One man's opinion, agree or disagree. Over and out.

If it makes you feel any better, I didn’t get the impression that they were upmixes.

Don’t know how Electronic Sounds could be considered one as it’s ultra-discrete.

 

[GOS]

 

[Post-American]

I have released a few albums in quad, I do modular synthesizers and the format there has been quad for a long time. When Dolby Atmos came in on popular services like Apple Music that's was the way to release it easily to all. I shared notes with @kamranv and I'm still learning.

However, you need to make sure you only use 4 objects placed in the corners of the virtual room, as your output is already made for that type of setup. There are already virtual objects moving between these 4 sources.

I made an Apple playlist of modular synthesizers in quadraphonic released at Dolby Atmos (not many releases yet, if you find more send it my way)

I explain how to do quadraphonics on a eurorack modular synthesizer
https://www.peachymango.org/euroquad

Hi Franck, we chatted briefly a while ago at the virtual listening party for Suzanne’s album that KamranV hosted. Anyway, I’ve been testing about Apple Music recently and really trying to dig deeper into what spatial audio has to offer. The Apple curated “Electronic” list doesn’t really do it for me and I’d love to check out your playlist if you don’t mind sharing it. Thanks.

 

[Guy Robinson]

Sorry for the Mountain post here. I did not realize that there was a separate 5.1 thread.