Listening to Now (In Surround) - Volume 2

[4-earredwonder]

GUESS WHO?

 

[mlrocker]

Keith Hopcroft - Route Secondaire
*This may be one of my favorite surround discoveries in the last year; just shipped in from Denmark. I'd categorize this as more Ambient/New Age than just straight Ambient.
I believe @GOS brought this to my attention on one of his earlier posts here (Thanks!)

Link (BD-R discs and download): Keith Hopcroft - Route Secondaire - BluRay disc - Surround Music One

I ripped both the 5.1 and 4.0 mixes; but noticed a couple extra 4.0 tracks (for tracks 13 & 14) I figured out one was a longer re-mix of Aire De Repos (#14) but still haven't quite figured out what track 13 is? I also noticed that some/all of the re-mixing in Quad may have been done by our bud here @mlrocker (aka Enoch The Rad-ETR) ; perhaps he has some insight into this, and great job with this one also Mr. ETR!

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Thanks: I did #13 Peage and #14 Fluide. Jan Printz did #15 Essence, and #16 Jazz Patrouille

 

[madship]

TFB. Really digging it.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

Thanks: I did #13 Peage and #14 Fluide. Jan Printz did #15 Essence, and #16 Jazz Patrouille

Huh OK, then I thought a couple of those were over-lapped but they must be different versions for 15 &16

 

[madship]

Looking for my childhood.

 

[4-earredwonder]

VERY difficult to contain my excitement over the release of Pierre Boulez's masterful interpretation of Manuel de Falla's THE THREE~CORNERED HAT and Falla's Chamber Concerto for Harpischord, composed for and dedicated to renowned harpischordist Wanda Landowska and Paul Dukas' LA PERI in EXTRAORDINARY Discrete Sonics. That Michael Dutton has resurrected these treasures from the QUADRAPHONIC era and released them as QUAD SACDS in ABSOLUTE State of the ART sonics is both thrilling and a cause for CELEBRATION!

 

[4-earredwonder]

Lenny Bernstein's one regret in life is that he didn't want to be exclusively associated with WEST SIDE STORY but rather his compositional and conducting prowness. Dutton Vocalion's 2021 QUAD SACD release of Igor Stravinsky's LE SACRE DU PRINTEMPS, SYMPHONY OF PSALMS and Francis Poulenc's GLORIA are certainly testaments to Bernstein's brilliance as a conductor and interpreter of 20th Century Composers. Though not as discrete as the Boulez SACDs, the Columbia Masterworks engineers have managed to capture every nuance of London's Symphony Orchestra and the English Bach Festival Chorus in sterling sonics. And might I add, Michael Dutton, working from the original analogue multi~tracks has managed to seamlessly integrate Gloria and the Symphony of Psalms, originally released in Stereo, into a convincing 4 corner soundstage.

I'm Leonard Bernstein and I approve this 'message!'

 

[kap'n krunch]

and

 

[ubertrout]

Lenny Bernstein's one regret in life is that he didn't want to be exclusively associated with WEST SIDE STORY but rather his compositional and conducting prowness. Dutton Vocalion's 2021 QUAD SACD release of Igor Stravinsky's LE SACRE DU PRINTEMPS, SYMPHONY OF PSALMS and Francis Poulenc's GLORIA are certainly testaments to Bernstein's brilliance as a conductor and interpreter of 20th Century Composers. Though not as discrete as the Boulez SACDs, the Columbia Masterworks engineers have managed to capture every nuance of London's Symphony Orchestra and the English Bach Festival Chorus in sterling sonics. And might I add, Michael Dutton, working from the original analogue multi~tracks has managed to seamlessly integrate Gloria and the Symphony of Psalms, originally released in Stereo, into a convincing 4 corner soundstage.

I'm Leonard Bernstein and I approve this 'message!'

Pretty sure the Symphony of Psalms was a vintage quad mix that never had an official issue. Curious if you hear a difference.

 

[Frogmort]

 

[4-earredwonder]

Pretty sure the Symphony of Psalms was a vintage quad mix that never had an official issue. Curious if you hear a difference.

According to this RBCD from an Amazon scan, The Symphony of Psalms and Gloria were 1965 recordings which pre~dated the Quadraphonic era and according to D~V's liner notes were remixed in QUAD from the original analogue Stereo masters [multi~tracks?] by Michael Dutton. To answer your query, ubertrout, the Dutton remixes are gloriously CONVINCING in QUAD! I suspect in 1965 4 track recordings were in their 'infancy!'

 

[ubertrout]

According to this RBCD from an Amazon scan, The Symphony of Psalms and Gloria were 1965 recordings which pre~dated the Quadraphonic era and according to D~V's liner notes were remixed in QUAD from the original analogue Stereo masters [multi~tracks] by Michael Dutton.

Discogs says 1977: Leonard Bernstein, New York Philharmonic, The English Bach Festival Chorus, London Symphony Orchestra, Judith Blegen , Soprano Westminster Choir – Poulenc: Gloria / Stravinsky: Symphony Of Psalms (1977, Vinyl)

Also, it was one of the "Robin Reels" - QQ-Columbia Quad Reel Page

 

[ubertrout]

Really enjoying this one...

 

[4-earredwonder]

Discogs says 1977: Leonard Bernstein, New York Philharmonic, The English Bach Festival Chorus, London Symphony Orchestra, Judith Blegen , Soprano Westminster Choir – Poulenc: Gloria / Stravinsky: Symphony Of Psalms (1977, Vinyl)

Also, it was one of the "Robin Reels" - QQ-Columbia Quad Reel Page

But the date on the RBCD says 1965 and it wasn't released until 1977 [probably as a RBCD]. Who knows! And from the QQ Quadraphonic Robin Reel's info comes this:

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Leonard Bernstein & London Symphony Orch

Stravinsky: Symphony of Psalms

34551 - Side 1 Only

Concert Hall Sound NOT RELEASED IN QUAD

So it could've been recorded in QUAD but as you infer NOT RELEASED as 1977 was sort of a cut off date for QUAD releases.

IMO, a great question to pose to Michael J. Dutton

 

[steelydave]

Pretty sure the Symphony of Psalms was a vintage quad mix that never had an official issue. Curious if you hear a difference.

Mike did a new mix of this album both in stereo and quad because the mixed master tapes were sticky and even baking didn't solve the problem. I'd say this is probably for the best, both from a fidelity and from a discrete-ness perspective, given that in the Mike Robin reel list this is noted as "concert hall sound" (ie ambient).

 

[4-earredwonder]

Mike did a new mix of this album both in stereo and quad because the mixed master tapes were sticky and even baking didn't solve the problem. I'd say this is probably for the best, both from a fidelity and from a discrete-ness perspective, given that in the Mike Robin reel list this is noted as "concert hall sound" (ie ambient).

Many thanks for the clarification. The SACD does sound gorgeous. Kudos to ALL involved. Another great batch of rock/jazz and CASSICAL discs from D~V.

 

[ubertrout]

Mike did a new mix of this album both in stereo and quad because the mixed master tapes were sticky and even baking didn't solve the problem. I'd say this is probably for the best, both from a fidelity and from a discrete-ness perspective, given that in the Mike Robin reel list this is noted as "concert hall sound" (ie ambient).

Thanks! Really good to have clarity. Was this the case for anything else?

 

[steelydave]

Thanks! Really good to have clarity. Was this the case for anything else?

It's the only one in this batch, and it's not hidden - the back cover artwork explicitly states that Mike did new stereo and quad remixes. I'm not sure if there have been any in the past (or if there are any planned in the future) where Mike's replaced an extant quad mix with one of his own (maybe half of the Miraculous Mandarin/Dance Suite album?) but if he does so, I think it'll be because of availability or condition of the original quad tapes, and not just an ego exercise on Mike's part to try and better an old mix.

 

[ubertrout]

It's the only one in this batch, and it's not hidden - the back cover artwork explicitly states that Mike did new stereo and quad remixes. I'm not sure if there have been any in the past (or if there are any planned in the future) where Mike's replaced an extant quad mix with one of his own (maybe half of the Miraculous Mandarin/Dance Suite album?) but if he does so, I think it'll be because of availability or condition of the original quad tapes, and not just an ego exercise on Mike's part to try and better an old mix.

To be clear, I don't necessarily mind - I've found the fidelity to be much better on his mixes than on the vintage ones; I just like knowing. For classical the mix is much less canonical than it is for pop (and I've found his mixing choices very "quaddish" anyway). I'm mostly excited to listen.

 

[J. PUPSTER]

and

Is that All Night Wrong a new acquisition for you Kap; it generally goes for a Ben Franklin, if you can even find one?