Listening to Now (In Surround) - Volume 2

[GOS]

ELO 1973 Quad

Average to poor fidelity I guess. Surround is average...

But, still like it.
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Wow, something I never noticed. The second song, called LOOK AT ME NOW, totally reminds me of Gentle Giant.

 

[GOS]

LOaded - Velvet Underground. I still LOVE this

 

[skherbeck]

Mike Oldfield "Hergest Ridge" 5.1 DD DVD-V- After listening to this and Tubular Bells, it becomes clear that Rob Reed is quite inspired by Mike Oldfield! Does anyone know if the vocals on Hergest Ridge, or Rob Reed's "Sanctuary" pieces are in an actual language, or are they just sounds/notes written by the composers?

(By the way, GREAT surround mix!)

 

[skherbeck]

Hergest Ridge (Part 1) 5.1... Does anyone else hear a short buzzing sound at the 17:27 mark? (Just wondering if it's my disc or the recording)

(The 17:27 was from my rip; I just went back and listened to my DVD and it's more like 17:23)

 

[Spock]

I'm working on buying it (its not easy on the cheap!) did you import your copy of the JMK BD-A into Europe from the U.S.A.?

rather unusual looking LFE (if that's what Channel 4 is) it appears to be more active than the Centre channel in your pic there and maybe contains more than just low frequency band limited info. always dangerous "waveform whispering" but until I can get to hear the disc in 5.1 I'll just say its an interesting mix by the looks of it and leave it at that

I ordered the disc via the link provided in the first post in the poll thread:

http://www.jmksonics.com/#/aboutus

Talking about Post - here is Björk:

 

[fizzywiggs41]

You're welcome Steve

that's great to hear thanks and even more encouraging news after fizzywiggs41's post with the same conclusion on the same BGO Chase CD set here at QQ the other day!
fwiw I have that BGO set on its way in the mail from Dodax on Amazon as we speak, so I'll be able to route it thru the S.Master soon and report back to QQ with the lowdown!
if in the meantime you'd like a little sample clip of 30 seconds or something from the decoded SQ LP to give you a flavour of the panning etc just let me know.

Steve (and fearless freddie)
Just a little late follow-up on your posts for the placements for BGO'S Pure Music by Chase.


I did not hook up my 101a to accurately listen , but......what I found in DPL was to "engage " two DSP modes and they will vary the instrumentation placement somewhat slightly in each .
I listened to a proven SQ disc prior to tryng out these btw., so you will get (perhaps not a completely accurate quadrant but never the less close )

So anyways try "DISCO " DSP and then try "Rock Concert " they shorten the soundfield somewhat , and see what you
experience . I found "Disco " the better fwiw .



Weird Song #1 has mostly synthesizer and the circulation is a contrived subtle demo , so listen loud .

And yes I must reattach my Fosgate , cause SQ requires a good decode .

 

[Spock]

 

[fredblue]

don't recall ever being hugely fussed about the surround mixes on this disc.. but looking at the waveforms in your pic Spock, is that full range content in the LFE channel.. that in turn appears to be identical to the Centre channel content..!? :yikes
(I'll crack it open in Audacity over the weekend and have a look at what the 6-ch's are doing, should be good for a laugh)

 

[fredblue]

Steve (and fearless freddie)
Just a little late follow-up on your posts for the placements for BGO'S Pure Music by Chase.


I did not hook up my 101a to accurately listen , but......what I found in DPL was to "engage " two DSP modes and they will vary the instrumentation placement somewhat slightly in each .
I listened to a proven SQ disc prior to tryng out these btw., so you will get (perhaps not a completely accurate quadrant but never the less close )

So anyways try "DISCO " DSP and then try "Rock Concert " they shorten the soundfield somewhat , and see what you
experience . I found "Disco " the better fwiw .



Weird Song #1 has mostly synthesizer and the circulation is a contrived subtle demo , so listen loud .

And yes I must reattach my Fosgate , cause SQ requires a good decode .

most of that DSP stuff on the Yammy AVRs little more than fluff imho (and I've had fun playing around with those Church Hall and Cellar Club settings etc over the last 21 years on & off of various Yammy receiver ownership.. don't get me wrong they can be a hoot!) but you know better than just about anybody that you'll only get the true Quad effect outta the SQ by running it thru your fabulous Fosgate, fizzy!
(i'm so jealous of your Fosgate! I want one! I want one! I want one! )

 

[Spock]

don't recall ever being hugely fussed about the surround mixes on this disc.. but looking at the waveforms in your pic Spock, is that full range content in the LFE channel.. that in turn appears to be identical to the Centre channel content..!? :yikes
(I'll crack it open in Audacity over the weekend and have a look at what the 6-ch's are doing, should be good for a laugh)

You know I mentioned earlier that foobars channel-display order changes from time to time? Well this time it shows from top:

Rear Left
Front Left
Center
Front Right
Rear Right
LFE

Have no idea why it does that - but the channels are fed correct to the receiver.

The fidelty and surround on the disc are nice.

 

[skherbeck]

I love this release... great mix and tons of hits!

 

[fredblue]

You know I mentioned earlier that foobars channel-display order changes from time to time? Well this time it shows from top:

Rear Left
Front Left
Center
Front Right
Rear Right
LFE

Have no idea why it does that - but the channels are fed correct to the receiver.

oh gawd.. wtf's that all about?! :yikes
think I'd rather have no fancy waveform GUI than a screwed up one!
in which case I guess the surround mix isn't so ballsed up after all..! (still never got into it much, will still have another look at it under the microscope as it were.. )

 

[Spock]

I love this release... great mix and tons of hits!

Agree great album!

 

[Spock]

oh gawd.. wtf's that all about?! :yikes
think I'd rather have no fancy waveform GUI than a screwed up one!
in which case I guess the surround mix isn't so ballsed up after all..! (still never got into it much, will still have another look at it under the microscope as it were.. )

It looks cool - right order or not :banana::banana:

 

[fredblue]

It looks cool - right order or not :banana::banana:

looks cool.. I prefer unvarnished accuracy!

 

[sbrom]

Thanks fizzywiggs.

I will try your suggestions for Yamaha-specific DSP modes this weekend. So far I'm very happy with DPLII-Music. Seems to provide the widest sound stage, and the most discrete instrument placement out of the DPLII modes available.

I also played Chase (S/T) and wow, it is very gimicky, in a sort of good way. The recording quality of this Chase S/T disc is poor, there's a constant hum in the background. Anything to distract from that is welcome

Thanks for the guideance,
Steve (sbrom)

Steve (and fearless freddie)
Just a little late follow-up on your posts for the placements for BGO'S Pure Music by Chase.


I did not hook up my 101a to accurately listen , but......what I found in DPL was to "engage " two DSP modes and they will vary the instrumentation placement somewhat slightly in each .
I listened to a proven SQ disc prior to tryng out these btw., so you will get (perhaps not a completely accurate quadrant but never the less close )

So anyways try "DISCO " DSP and then try "Rock Concert " they shorten the soundfield somewhat , and see what you
experience . I found "Disco " the better fwiw .



Weird Song #1 has mostly synthesizer and the circulation is a contrived subtle demo , so listen loud .

And yes I must reattach my Fosgate , cause SQ requires a good decode .

 

[fizzywiggs41]

most of that DSP stuff on the Yammy AVRs little more than fluff imho (and I've had fun playing around with those Church Hall and Cellar Club settings etc over the last 21 years on & off of various Yammy receiver ownership.. don't get me wrong they can be a hoot!) but you know better than just about anybody that you'll only get the true Quad effect outta the SQ by running it thru your fabulous Fosgate, fizzy!
(i'm so jealous of your Fosgate! I want one! I want one! I want one! )

Oh my freddums,

Someone was selling 2 just last week ? maybe 10 days ago on QQ , Did you miss that or what ?
And the TATE chips were allegedly in good working order .


And yes the Yammy dpl is not (repeat not ) SQ accurate, but I like to "muck about " sometimes,so.........

accurate placement of intended SQ encoded signal vs. Pseudo-quadrant .




(Must be time to reattach the Fosgate----you say ?)

Please forgive my impetuous choices-at least for a short while .:couch

 

[fizzywiggs41]

Thanks fizzywiggs.

I will try your suggestions for Yamaha-specific DSP modes this weekend. So far I'm very happy with DPLII-Music. Seems to provide the widest sound stage, and the most discrete instrument placement out of the DPLII modes available.

I also played Chase (S/T) and wow, it is very gimicky, in a sort of good way. The quality of this recording is poor, there's a constant hum in the background. Anything to distract from that is welcome

Thanks for the guideance,
Steve (sbrom)

That's kinda why I think this is gotta be more than just stereo and must contain the SQ encode . It's just incredibly good , can't be just coincidental !

And yes there is a bloody fiasco with regards to the Japanese blue spec cd's (indicated on sleeve art as Quad yet !!!!)

I wish I knew who it was that originally reported that the early issue cd's of Chase's 2 QUAD 's contained the intact SQ matrix Encode .
I'm guessing of course, but I thought someone stated original stereo tapes were scrapped in favour of the SQ (considered better ?)-Maybe Frederico's memory can shed light ---maybe ?


FWIW SQ encoded cd's can be rare as hen's teeth , such as the likes of this one .

 

[fredblue]

Oh my freddums,

Someone was selling 2 just last week ? maybe 10 days ago on QQ , Did you miss that or what ?
And the TATE chips were allegedly in good working order .


And yes the Yammy dpl is not (repeat not ) SQ accurate, but I like to "muck about " sometimes,so.........

accurate placement of intended SQ encoded signal vs. Pseudo-quadrant .




(Must be time to reattach the Fosgate----you say ?)

Please forgive my impetuous choices-at least for a short while .:couch

were they?! ahh.. i'm sorry i missed that.. maybe one day

indeed! or you could keep it disconnected and flog it to freddums!

 

[fredblue]

That's kinda why I think this is gotta be more than just stereo and must contain the SQ encode . It's just incredibly good , can't be just coincidental !

And yes there is a bloody fiasco with regards to the Japanese blue spec cd's (indicated on sleeve art as Quad yet !!!!)

I wish I knew who it was that originally reported that the early issue cd's of Chase's 2 QUAD 's contained the intact SQ matrix Encode .
I'm guessing of course, but I thought someone stated original stereo tapes were scrapped in favour of the SQ (considered better ?)-Maybe Frederico's memory can shed light ---maybe ?


FWIW SQ encoded cd's can be rare as hen's teeth , such as the likes of this one .

oh fizzywizzybizzylizzy!!!! :yikes
please don't mention that bloody Japanese Blu-Spec CD I shelled out an arm and a friggin leg for..!!! that one is so not SQ it hurts!! well at least my copy isn't

afaik every version of the 1st Chase Quad on CD (and the iTunes version.. and I am sure I was told by a QQ-er there are Hi-Res downloads of it somewhere too) is the SQ encoded master.. as for Pure Music, who knows!? meantime, once I get those BGO CDs maybe I will know! probably not but.. its fun to dream!

oh I think I got the info about the Chase stuff on CD being SQ from Mark Anderson's site btw does that sound right?