hahahahaha....oh yes. I try to control myself. Good one bro.Lay off the crank, my friend!
hahahahaha....oh yes. I try to control myself. Good one bro.Lay off the crank, my friend!
This reminds me of the saying "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." . I get that one doesn't have to like this music or rather hates it. That is fine. There is plenty of music I don't like. Objectively, how can one rate the packaging and surround mix at 1 & 2 respectively. Really ?I will lay my cards out right at the start. I think this album is dreadful, and is amongst the worst albums I own. Although it stands alone as an album which actually annoys me.
The surround sound mix is as you'd expect from Wilson. Professionally done, immersive, and the rest. The package it comes in is pretty good as well. So no complaints there. The problem I have with it is the music. The undercurrent which existed in earlier songs such as "Piano Lessons", "Four Chords That Made A Million" and "The Sound of Muszak" comes fully to the fore in the title track. Which, bluntly, sounds like a man in his late 30s railing against the tunes the then current "yoof" were listening to. "They sound like Pearl Jam, Their clothes are all black, The music is crap" he opines like someone indignantly waggling a pipe. Of course, I could be missing the point and I'm simply not clever enough to see they are being ironic; PT condemning yet simultaneously pursuing the exact same black clothed demographic. But I suspect there's nothing ironic about it, as evidenced by the decision to call a 17 minute long dirge "Anesthetize"
So 2 for the surround mix, 1 for the packaging and a big fat zero for the music.
Interesting, Jonathan, because FOABP didn't really grow on me until I absorbed the Blu-Ray concert performance.I also think that the live performance of the entire album on the Anesthetize Blu-Ray concert is actually more powerful than the studio version!
Amen, brother Gene!Personally, I am fascinated with dark subject matter. I think (no, I know) this album and this mix is an absolute stunner. I simply cannot get enough of this. For me, a few beers, maybe a joint, crank this thing up and it simply is astounding.
Advice you'd be better heeding, than offering.This reminds me of the saying "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." .
Holy Cow, I never knew that. I'm going to have to check, but I think I have a promo copy of that CD. I've always been mostly meh on Fish's solo material, even Weltsmertz (which I am thrilled to have). hopefully this will give me a new perspective.I was very much into early Marillion; saw them live in 1985 before the split. After that I followed Fish more than the remaining band. This ironically brings us back around to PT!
Steven produced Fish's Sunsets On Empire album. He also co-wrote a couple songs and played on them. This is where SW met John Wesley, who would of course, later become the '5th Beatle' of Porcupine Tree, serving as tour guitarist/singer. He was kind enough to chat and autograph my In Absentia CD booklet in Milwaukee (Shank Hall) 2002.....
Better late than never but still surprised this is your first PT purchase. Welcome to an amazing band in surround!10. I have the two-disc version. Great album, great surround mix. My first Porcupine Tree purchase, there will be more.
This album was my introduction to PT and Mr. Steven Wilson. I can't believe it has been 15 years already.Happy 15th anniversary to this masterpiece.
Time for a spin!
Happy 15th anniversary to this masterpiece.
Time for a spin!
BTW, thanks for all the jpg's Jon !5CD/Blu-Ray packshots:
Yes, I was looking forward to this, and I was not disappointed. As for the 2024 surround mix of "Fear," it's one of the loudest, surround mixes I have heard. It's so loud that I had to adjust my DB rear level to 0.The Bonus EP in 5.1 is a hidden gem!!!! Pulled this one out last night. The whole bonus EP Nil Recurring in 5.1 is magnificent and to my ears better than their latest release. Especially " Cheating the polygraph" and " What happens now" . What a mix!